No, not the stimulous bill. They didn't read the Capa nd TradeEnergy Bill.
300 pages were added at 3am. They didn't want anyone to read them and didn't want the media to be able to cover them(even if they wanted too)
At 3:09 AM Friday, June 26, House Democrats released a 300-page amendment to Speaker Pelosiâ's 1,200-page national energy tax. No one not one single Member of Congress read the bill that the House voted on. Speaker Pelosi promised the American people at least 24 hours to read a bill before a vote in her New Direction for America document distributed in 2006 that remains on her website today.
Since Democrats planned to refuse lawmakers and the American public a chance to read the bill, I decided to read portions of it on the Floor of the U.S. House of Representatives. By tradition, there are three Members of the House who have the right to deliver unlimited Floor remarks the Speaker, the Majority Leader and the Minority Leader. The American people have a right to know what is being voted on and should demand to know why Speaker Pelosi was so anxious to rush this bill through Congress.
One reason could be that the 300-page, 3-am amendment was loaded with job-killing mandates, higher taxes, pet projects and special-interest provisions that will hurt middle-class families and small businesses while protecting powerful companies and politicians. These provisions should have been subject to public scrutiny and debate, and potential removal, prior to being passed by the House. Unfortunately Speaker Pelosi and the Democratic leadership refused to allow that to happen.
Go here for a full transcript of my remarks.
Go here to read the 300 pages that lawmakers didn't.
Makes me wonder if the House can read. Or can Peosli just call out a vote and they vote on command? Maybe she signals and they can roll over?
The House is a rubber stamp?
The House even tried to silence Boehner, that was reading from the 300 pages, that no one had time to read.
One question to you Democrats, would this have been acceptable if Bush had done it? We know the Democrats can pass any bill they want, but shouldn't they read them, first? They can win alomost anything they write, but why rush something through after hours on Friday?
They don't want to hear from the people at home. They were afraid people would demand the bill to fail.
The "Stim" bill was so important it had to pass in one sitting(even though the majorrity of spending stil hasn't been seen yet.) but why this one?
Set your kool aid down, and think this one through.
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I think that's what a Congressman's staff should do. If I were in Congress, I'd hire a team of trustworthy legislative aides whose job would be to read these bills, and distill them into a digestible form. You gotta have people who know what they're doing, and enough of them to get through an enormous bill like this in a timely manner. Even if I didn't have enough money in my staff budget, I'd pay them out of pocket. And anyway--aren't these bill largely written by staffers in the first place?
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I think that's what a Congressman's staff should do. If I were in Congress, I'd hire a team of trustworthy legislative aides whose job would be to read these bills, and distill them into a digestible form. You gotta have people who know what they're doing, and enough of them to get through an enormous bill like this in a timely manner. Even if I didn't have enough money in my staff budget, I'd pay them out of pocket. And anyway--aren't these bill largely written by staffers in the first place?
It does not matter. We vote for the congressmen, not their staff. The stuff we allow the brood of vipers to get away with should shame them, and us.
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Wasn't there some promise about a 3 day waiting rule to vote?
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No, not the stimulous bill. They didn't read the Capa nd TradeEnergy Bill.
300 pages were added at 3am. They didn't want anyone to read them and didn't want the media to be able to cover them(even if they wanted too)
Makes me wonder if the House can read. Or can Peosli just call out a vote and they vote on command? Maybe she signals and they can roll over?
The House is a rubber stamp?
The House even tried to silence Boehner, that was reading from the 300 pages, that no one had time to read.
One question to you Democrats, would this have been acceptable if Bush had done it? We know the Democrats can pass any bill they want, but shouldn't they read them, first? They can win alomost anything they write, but why rush something through after hours on Friday?
They don't want to hear from the people at home. They were afraid people would demand the bill to fail.
The "Stim" bill was so important it had to pass in one sitting(even though the majorrity of spending stil hasn't been seen yet.) but why this one?
Set your kool aid down, and think this one through.
So much for Obama's claim of a more open and transparent government.
Dennis Kucinich voted no on this bill.
I'm all for the concept of cap and trade, but this is stupid.
Originally Posted by chaz345
So much for Obama's claim of a more open and transparent government.
I'm not sure what this has to do with Obama, this is Pelosi's fault or just congress in general for refusing to do their jobs. Rushing through an emergency economic stimulus is one thing but cap and trade regulation isn't the kind of thing that should be rammed through without debate...
obama is their leader, the buck stops with him. He made promises concerning this kind of thing, and he has consistently broken them.
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Dennis Kucinich voted no on this bill.
I'm all for the concept of cap and trade, but this is stupid.
I'm not sure what this has to do with Obama, this is Pelosi's fault or just congress in general for refusing to do their jobs. Rushing through an emergency economic stimulus is one thing but cap and trade regulation isn't the kind of thing that should be rammed through without debate...
NOTHING should be rushed through. If the stimulus bill was such a huge rush, how come only a tiny amount of the money is available to actually be spent.
As for it not being Obama's fault, cap and trade was his proposal. I know he can't actually introduce legislation but you really think he's got no influence over a congress that is controlled by his own party?
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