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2nd July 2009, 12:59 PM
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Reps: 47,249,488,649,861,296 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun That is why paleontology is a total nonsense. It tried to classify things based on morphology and ignore everything else. It is REALLY STUPID to call yourself an ape even you acknowledge the idea of common ancestor. A twins look like each other. That does not mean they are the same person.
In paleontology there is little more than morphology (the form and structure of plants and animals) to go on. Just what "everything else" did you have in mind? | 
2nd July 2009, 01:40 PM
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Reps: 1,302,836,567,483 (power: 1,302,836,571) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun That is why paleontology is a total nonsense. It tried to classify things based on morphology and ignore everything else.
Such as? It is REALLY STUPID to call yourself an ape even you acknowledge the idea of common ancestor. A twins look like each other. That does not mean they are the same person.
You're comparing the naming of things, as broad categories, with equating them as copies of one another.
Those twins would probably have the same last name. Taxonomically speaking, that's all we're doing by placing certain species in the same genus, or the same family. | 
2nd July 2009, 01:59 PM
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by redwards Such as?
You're comparing the naming of things, as broad categories, with equating them as copies of one another.
Those twins would probably have the same last name. Taxonomically speaking, that's all we're doing by placing certain species in the same genus, or the same family.
Such as the difference between you and an ape.
If you say there is no difference, I will buy some bananas for you. | 
2nd July 2009, 01:59 PM
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2nd July 2009, 02:01 PM
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2nd July 2009, 02:06 PM
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by Washington In paleontology there is little more than morphology (the form and structure of plants and animals) to go on. Just what "everything else" did you have in mind?
There is none. Everything else is made (and made up) to support the morphological argument.
If two skeletons are the same, to paleontologist, they are the same thing. But, It is absolutely false. I am unique. I am not anyone else. This is what paleontologist does not know.
Paleontology is a study of classification. That is only step ONE in any science. Do not take it to make conclusion. | 
2nd July 2009, 02:08 PM
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Why do you "love to know"? It has nothing to do with science or religion. | 
2nd July 2009, 02:10 PM
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by BananaSlug Genetically, identical twins are the same person.
No. They will mutate in different way. | 
2nd July 2009, 02:17 PM
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by Wiccan_Child Which shows how little you know about palaeontology.
No, but they do have the same family name. Likewise, though we're not the same species as chimps, we're both descended from proto-ape species, so we both have the 'ape' moniker.
This illustrates that you are brainwashed by paleontology. Morphologically, paleontologist put human skeleton after that of ape. That absolutely does not say that human evolved from ape. This conclusion does not even follow the simplest logic. | 
2nd July 2009, 02:25 PM
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Reps: 1,302,836,567,483 (power: 1,302,836,571) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun Such as the difference between you and an ape.
If you say there is no difference, I will buy some bananas for you.
Ignoring your improper use of a category to which I technically belong, you're pointing to the difference between myself and a gorilla or a chimpanzee.
There are a number of differences between myself and a gorilla, but the ones that would fall within the purview of paleontology are largely morphological.
The further differences would probably fall within the purview of other aspects of biology. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |