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Old 29th June 2009, 08:31 PM
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Barack Obama Supports Would-be Banana Republic Thug Dicator

The president of Honduras was arrested.

Obama came out in support of him. Apparently he had been arrested by the military by court order, and then got removed from office.
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Old 29th June 2009, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Panzerkampfwagen View Post
The president of Honduras was arrested.

Obama came out in support of him. Apparently he had been arrested by the military by court order, and then got removed from office.
Judging by the article, the court was in the right, but I feel as though Obama is going to try and do something foolish here, like putting the guy back in power.
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obama is the king of doing foolish things, why stop now?
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Originally Posted by mont974x4 View Post
obama is the king of doing foolish things, why stop now?
Ok, I'll bite - what foolish things has Obama done?
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Ok, I'll bite - what foolish things has Obama done?
Blowing billions of dollars to try and save failing businesses instead of simply letting the market run its course stands out to me.
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Blowing billions of dollars to try and save failing businesses instead of simply letting the market run its course stands out to me.
Or seen from another perspective investing billions of dollars into ensuring the jobs of many Americans, not just in the companies that the government is supporting but in a whole range of industries and communities which only exist because of those companies?

What is more important - sticking to your free market principles or concern for the welfare of real people?

Does the fact you disagree with a policy render it "foolish"?
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Or seen from another perspective investing billions of dollars into ensuring the jobs of many Americans, not just in the companies that the government is supporting but in a whole range of industries and communities which only exist because of those companies?

What is more important - sticking to your free market principles or concern for the welfare of real people?

Does the fact you disagree with a policy render it "foolish"?
I would rather see a company survive or fail on its own merits than have to watch a government step in because they can't come up with a good business plan on their own. The banks shouldn't have been bailed out at all, and now the taxpayers are on the hook for almost $1.5 trillion for those alone. If they had let things happen, yes, we would have been a lot worse off now, but the system would be cleared of all the garbage clogging it. Now we get to sit and watch the inevitable happen anyway, just a few years later.

As for the communities, Detroit should have diversified their industries earlier on. Sticking with just one industry as your region's lifeblood is sentencing that region to death when the industry eventually leaves/fails. They have been able to attract some films there, but it's pretty much too little, too late at this point. Unemployment is skyrocketing, their city and state government is crooked beyond repair, and I don't even have to mention the lack of aesthetic appeal the city possesses. The entire city could benefit from a rampaging bulldozer pushing everything down in its path, but let's waste billions of dollars (thus far) propping up a failed company just so the communities don't wind up burned-out, riot-gutted wastelands. I left the area a few years ago and the only two things I regret are that I didn't do it sooner, and that I didn't bring my family with me so they could retire here in Florida.
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[quote=LUColt27;52219334]Blowing billions of dollars to try and save failing businesses instead of simply letting the market run its course stands out to me.[/quote

Yep, only someone with a severe disconnect from reality can honestly think it's a good plan to solve a debt problem by going more into debt. And creating money out of thin air.


Then of course, in relation to the OP, he thinks its an illegal coup to have a legally elected congress and legal court system remove a crooked politician.

It never ceases to amaze me how pointing out the errors of givernment and how they cannot solve the problems of the world equals a lack of caring for people.
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