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Old 2nd July 2009, 11:13 AM
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He was making an illegal move and he was legally removed. There was no coup.
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Old 2nd July 2009, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mont974x4 View Post
He was making an illegal move and he was legally removed. There was no coup.
If it wasn't a coup, why didn't the civil authorities arrest him and not the army? Why wasn't he put in jail, and not taken out of the country?
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Old 2nd July 2009, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mont974x4 View Post
He was making an illegal move and he was legally removed. There was no coup.
When the military suddenly removes a president, it is a coup. That's what "coup" means.
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Originally Posted by PatsyG View Post
If it was declared by the Supreme Court of the country, how, exactly, is it illegal?
Does the Honduran Constitution give the Supreme Court the power to oust the President?

If the US Supreme Court ordered the military to go into the White House Residence, pull President Obama out of bed and put him on an airplane to London, would it be legal? (...aaaaand snarky comment about how that would be just peachy from some right-wing loon in 3..2..1...)

Where can I get a copy of the Honduran Constitution?
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Old 3rd July 2009, 12:38 PM
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Did the Honduran Supreme Court rule that the military could pull a coup legally?
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Originally Posted by revanneosl View Post
Does the Honduran Constitution give the Supreme Court the power to oust the President?

If the US Supreme Court ordered the military to go into the White House Residence, pull President Obama out of bed and put him on an airplane to London, would it be legal? (...aaaaand snarky comment about how that would be just peachy from some right-wing loon in 3..2..1...)

Where can I get a copy of the Honduran Constitution?
If the Congress impeached and removed a President from power and the Supreme Court upheld it, but the guy didn't step down, who would be responsible to physically remove him? Particularly if he had a component of the police or army that was loyal to him.
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Originally Posted by Steve Petersen View Post
If the Congress impeached and removed a President from power and the Supreme Court upheld it, but the guy didn't step down, who would be responsible to physically remove him? Particularly if he had a component of the police or army that was loyal to him.
It doesn't matter if he stepped down or not; he is no longer President at that point. If he refused to leave the White House he would be arrested.
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Two things:

A.) This guy was not a dictator. He's an Authoritarian Populist Douchebag who was an idiot and paid the price for it. Dictators do not get taken out so easily for doing an illegal referendum. Stop calling him a dictator, it is an insult to the millions of people today that know what a real dictatorship is.

B.) Obama is condemned the coup because the first assumption anytime a military coup happens is that the US backed it. If Obama refused to say anything or made a neutral stance; it would be assumed that the USA was behind it. Note that even though Obama is speaking harsh talk, he has not actually carried out the procedure to "derecgonize" a government.
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It doesn't matter if he stepped down or not; he is no longer President at that point. If he refused to leave the White House he would be arrested.
By whom?
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