What do creationists think about creationism targeting young children?

gaara4158 · #81 2nd July 2009, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by AV1611VET

Well --- aside from all that rigmarole --- I'd word it this way:

The answers cannot be achieved by science.

Depends what the questions are. Questions of philosophy can't be answered by science, sure. Questions of nature and technology generally can, though.

Hespera · #82 2nd July 2009, 10:52 PM

Science is ahead of religion in this matter. Religion cant answer any questions. Not even about itself.

AV1611VET · #83 2nd July 2009, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by gaara4158

Depends what the questions are. Questions of philosophy can't be answered by science, sure. Questions of nature and technology generally can, though.

Again, the question I would ask my child (and require him to know) would simply be: What are the 4th and 5th words in the Bible?

AV1611VET · #84 2nd July 2009, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Hespera

Science is ahead of religion in this matter. Religion cant answer any questions. Not even about itself.

And it gets back to what I said recently:

Science is too myopic to be any kind of threat to the Truths of the Bible.

gaara4158 · #85 2nd July 2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by AV1611VET

Again, the question I would ask my child (and require him to know) would simply be: What are the 4th and 5th words in the Bible?

Would you hold this to be more important than the socratic method or scientific inquiry?

Hespera · #86 2nd July 2009, 11:07 PM

AV sez..."And it gets back to what I said recently:

Science is too myopic to be any kind of threat to the Truths of the Bible."QUOTE////////////

Hespera sez:

No "threat" to the lost language of Atlantis, the seven cities of gold, the cyclops, the lost pyramid or the secret alien base in obama molars either, and for the same reasons.

AV1611VET · #87 2nd July 2009, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by gaara4158

Would you hold this to be more important than the socratic method or scientific inquiry?

Of course.

gaara4158 · #88 2nd July 2009, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by AV1611VET

Of course.

So if logic itself contradicted the Bible, you would argue that logic is wrong?

AV1611VET · #89 2nd July 2009, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by gaara4158

So if logic itself contradicted the Bible, you would argue that logic is wrong?

Yup ---

Originally Posted by Isaiah 55:8-9

8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

gaara4158 · #90 3rd July 2009, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by AV1611VET

Yup ---

You would contradict yourself to do so, since an argument against reason assumes reason.