Home | Be a Christian | Devotionals | Join Us! | Forums | Rules | F.A.Q.


Go Back   Christian Forums > Society > Society > Physical & Life Sciences > Creation & Evolution
Register BlogsPrayersJobsArcade Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Creation & Evolution Forum for the discussion of this important topic. This forum is open to non-believers. There is a Christians-only forum in the Christians-only section too.

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 29th June 2009, 07:36 PM
Warning - The following may cause you to think

27 Gender: Male Faith: Taoist Member For 2 Years
 
Join Date: 13th November 2007
Posts: 1,569
Blessings: 11,368
My Mood Amused
Reps: 1,141,313,842 (power: 1,141,317)
Jester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond repute
Jester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by SiderealExalt View Post
.
As someone who was very close to a school shooting, things like this actually make me sick to my stomach.
Become a CF Site Supporter Today and Make These Ads Go Away!

  #62  
Old 29th June 2009, 07:38 PM
Warning - The following may cause you to think

27 Gender: Male Faith: Taoist Member For 2 Years
 
Join Date: 13th November 2007
Posts: 1,569
Blessings: 11,368
My Mood Amused
Reps: 1,141,313,842 (power: 1,141,317)
Jester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond repute
Jester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond reputeJester4kicks has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by juvenissun View Post
Ha, ha ..., see what do they make? A smart girl like YOU.

Whenever you have chance to go back to your homeland, please visit the church there. You will be amazed on what kind of people Communist regime ultimately cultivated.
Yeah... you're a teacher.
  #63  
Old 29th June 2009, 07:40 PM
Hespera's Avatar
Junior Member

Gender: Female Faith: Buddhist Country: United States
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 16th December 2008
Location: usa
Posts: 3,563
Blessings: 52,251
Reps: 1,692,297,686,294 (power: 1,692,297,690)
Hespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond repute
Hespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond reputeHespera has a reputation beyond repute
juv sez...Ha, ha ..., see what do they make? A smart girl like YOU.

Whenever you have chance to go back to your homeland, please visit the church there. You will be amazed on what kind of people Communist regime ultimately cultivated.QUOTE////////

There are some churchgoers in China. Mostly from the less educated and more credulous part of the population.

'course, im from Hk that was spared the horrors of maoism. Your notion that I would be amazed by my own homeland is kind of weird.

is there a point to your post ? The point of mine is that if the USA insists on dumbing itself out of existence there will be people to take charge, and they wont be Christian fundamentalists with the 'highest degree of education".
  #64  
Old 29th June 2009, 07:50 PM
Senior Veteran

28 Gender: Male Faith: Atheist Country: United States Member For 2 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 25th February 2007
Posts: 2,349
Blessings: 41,670
My Mood Blah
Reps: 1,583,191,487,093 (power: 0)
SiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond repute
SiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Jester4kicks View Post
As someone who was very close to a school shooting, things like this actually make me sick to my stomach.
Likewise. My cousin was shot outside my shop class when I was in 8th grade..over a JACKET!

And as someone with a daughter who will be entering school soon. The idea of Creationists weasling their way into the education systems in this country does not make me comfortable.
  #65  
Old 30th June 2009, 01:02 AM
WilliamduBois's Avatar
BenderBendingRodriguez

27 Gender: Male Faith: Atheist Country: Belgium Member For 3 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 11th March 2006
Location: Desselgem, WVL, Belgium
Posts: 273
Blessings: 32,148
My Mood Sleepy
Reps: 10,316,166,019 (power: 10,316,170)
WilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond repute
WilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond reputeWilliamduBois has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Philothei View Post
Science is imperfect and cannot replace what I will tell my child about God.
Science doesn't talk about God, so it can't replace what you tell your child about it.

Or are you all telling your children that science is perfect and makes no mistakes?
Who here said science is perfect? It's easy to attack a strawman like that.

What I will tell my child when she's older is that she needs to look at the evidence and see what that says. If that would mean she would become religious, I won't mind. All I want is that she takes a (honest, not the strawman kind) look at what the world around her says and makes a well-thought out decision.

Heh, in fact, if I get my way, I'll insist she takes religious classes when she goes to public school. I didn't want her baptised because I want her to make her own decisions.
__________________
William "BBR" duBois

"If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion."
-Edmond de Goncour
  #66  
Old 30th June 2009, 01:49 AM
suzmot's Avatar
Newbie

29 Gender: Male Faith: Atheist Member For 1 Years
 
Join Date: 18th December 2007
Posts: 64
Blessings: 23,776
Reps: 811,602 (power: 813)
suzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud of
suzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud ofsuzmot has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by Jester4kicks View Post
Examples? You constantly talk about theories that contradict each other, or have been proven wrong, or how there are multiple theories of evolution...

...and you have yet to list a SINGLE example. We're waiting.
I mostly lurk, but "still waiting" has got to be one of the most repeated phrases around here.

The number of times you guys ask creationists to *gasp* back up what they're saying, but never get a response should be embarrassing for them.
  #67  
Old 30th June 2009, 02:03 AM
Senior Veteran

28 Gender: Male Faith: Atheist Country: United States Member For 2 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 25th February 2007
Posts: 2,349
Blessings: 41,670
My Mood Blah
Reps: 1,583,191,487,093 (power: 0)
SiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond repute
SiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond reputeSiderealExalt has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by suzmot View Post
I mostly lurk, but "still waiting" has got to be one of the most repeated phrases around here.

The number of times you guys ask creationists to *gasp* back up what they're saying, but never get a response should be embarrassing for them.
I don't think it does. The Creationist literature I've seen, pamphlets, children's books, programs,etc. Seems to paint a picture that creationists absolutely don't care if something is an outright lie. So why get embarrassed?
  #68  
Old 2nd July 2009, 07:05 AM
dad's Avatar
Undefeated

Gender: Male Faith: Christian Member For 4 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 17th January 2005
Posts: 15,180
Blessings: 18,392
My Mood Relaxed
Reps: 164,588,693,507,141 (power: 164,588,693,527)
dad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond repute
dad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by iremouth View Post
Do you think creationism is right to target young children or should they wait until children can decide for themselves about creationism?
It is right to teach them right away. It is also required for a believer to teach them about Jesus. He is the creator, if you haven't heard.
__________________
Pr 21:30 -There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD.
  #69  
Old 2nd July 2009, 07:09 AM
dad's Avatar
Undefeated

Gender: Male Faith: Christian Member For 4 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 17th January 2005
Posts: 15,180
Blessings: 18,392
My Mood Relaxed
Reps: 164,588,693,507,141 (power: 164,588,693,527)
dad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond repute
dad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by iremouth View Post
By it's very nature creationism requires it's followers to lie, it's not a slur on creationist it's a failing of creationism, how else could they maintain their belief system without lying? it's based on a myth and supported by nothing, the outcome can only be lies,...
False. You are misinformed. Show me a lie in accepting that God created the world?
__________________
Pr 21:30 -There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD.
  #70  
Old 2nd July 2009, 09:14 AM
dad's Avatar
Undefeated

Gender: Male Faith: Christian Member For 4 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 17th January 2005
Posts: 15,180
Blessings: 18,392
My Mood Relaxed
Reps: 164,588,693,507,141 (power: 164,588,693,527)
dad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond repute
dad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond reputedad has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by iremouth View Post
Creationist lie 1) God created the world. You have no proof of this so it is a lie. (the bible is a book, not proof)
My lie 1) Santa Clause created the world. I have no proof of this so it is a lie. (the book of Christmas stories is a book, not proof)
I do not need proof, it is the default. You have no proof it is a lie. Neither have you proof that your same state stuff is true. What DO you have,then? That is the question.

It is no good us saying that they are not lies but they are something we believe to be true, telling children something is the truth when you have no proof that it is, is as good as lying to them, we all occasionally do it unintentionally but we should never do it intentionally, believing something and proving it are two different things, that's why science is taught in the science class and religion is taught in a religions class.
So, we ought to be sure to tell kids that a same state past is something we have no proof for. Got it. You have no proof of a same state past, yet it is taught.
__________________
Pr 21:30 -There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD.
Closed Thread


Return to Creation & Evolution

Thread Tools
Display Modes



 
Become a CF Site Supporter Today and Make These Ads Go Away!
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:40 AM.


vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios