Question on Definites

Rescuedsince04 · #1 27th June 2009, 10:51 AM

I am a Christian and I am trying to evangelize to one of my really good friends and he is majoring in biology and going to medical school. The reason why I am telling you that is because he is very analytical and picks everything apart. To an extent, he is open to religion, but right now, his status is one of a true agnostic, and although he does not deny God, he does not believe in Him either. My friend grew up in the Catholic church and he says that he thinks that if there is a God, Jesus could be the Son of God, however, it is a matter of believing and knowing that He is DEFINITELY the Son of God. Taking the next step, if you will, which is in itself, becoming a Christian. He really just can't seem to get past this, though. Even in his everyday life he makes excuses for having to deal with making a decision about a definite. He actually just got married and I asked him if he went into that marriage thinking that was going to be a definite and he actually said, "No", which was not a surprise, and although his wife is just as agnostic as he is (who I am working on as well

), I do believe her answer would have been different. It seems to be a matter of "well if I am wrong, then what?" Does anyone have any advice? Any bible passages that could lead me in the right direction?? Thanks!!

God Bless!!!

Emmy · #2 27th June 2009, 11:48 AM

Dear Rescuedsince04. The greatest witness for Christ is the love our Lord has for all of us, and the love we have for God and each other. Our prayers are our petitions to God, and our lives are the model to imitate. I cannot think of anything better, Rescuedsince04. Your friend`s wife said that if she is wrong, " So what?" Perhaps you could help her to see the difference between the future of God`s sons/daughters, and those who go their own way. But let God lead you, remember God is Love and Forgiveness, Jesus paid the price and is waiting now for us to follow Him back to our original home. All we have to do: Repent, exchange our selfish life-style into a loving/caring one. And to find out for sure how God loves us, we follow Him, and will find the difference it will make, to all who trust. I say this humbly and with love. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.

Rescuedsince04 · #3 27th June 2009, 12:46 PM

Oh maybe I phrased it incorrectly, but the point I was trying to make was that my friend is at a point where he is saying, "well if I am wrong, then what?" His wife is very devoted...she didn't really have much to do with the story, sorry to have you confused.

Poverello78 · #4 27th June 2009, 02:45 PM

What sort of interaction is he most responsive to in your friendship and in regard to talking about God?

BrotherDave · #5 28th June 2009, 12:37 PM

He is wrong and will never get to experience a perfect sinfree eternal life with our Lord. Only God can change a person's heart (Prov 20, Ro 9:15). Your friend knows where you stand and you should always be available to discuss spiritual things with him whenever he wants. You should be a model for him and all to see as you live your life for the Lord. You must be careful not to come across as judgemental and aggressive or threatening. The best you can do is pray for him, asking God to have mercy on your friend and open his eyes. If it is God's will to do so then you should be there to help him grow.

Jaws13 · #6 28th June 2009, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Rescuedsince04

I am a Christian and I am trying to evangelize to one of my really good friends and he is majoring in biology and going to medical school. The reason why I am telling you that is because he is very analytical and picks everything apart. To an extent, he is open to religion, but right now, his status is one of a true agnostic, and although he does not deny God, he does not believe in Him either. My friend grew up in the Catholic church and he says that he thinks that if there is a God, Jesus could be the Son of God, however, it is a matter of believing and knowing that He is DEFINITELY the Son of God. Taking the next step, if you will, which is in itself, becoming a Christian. He really just can't seem to get past this, though. Even in his everyday life he makes excuses for having to deal with making a decision about a definite. He actually just got married and I asked him if he went into that marriage thinking that was going to be a definite and he actually said, "No", which was not a surprise, and although his wife is just as agnostic as he is (who I am working on as well ), I do believe her answer would have been different. It seems to be a matter of "well if I am wrong, then what?" Does anyone have any advice? Any bible passages that could lead me in the right direction?? Thanks!! God Bless!!!

Why do you try to win the arguments when you can win the hearts?

Rescuedsince04 · #7 28th June 2009, 11:18 PM

Win arguments???

Poverello78 · #8 29th June 2009, 11:18 AM

Rescued, I was wondering if you'd read my reply.

Rescuedsince04 · #9 29th June 2009, 12:41 PM

Poverello, sorry, I may have missed your reply. He actually is really into talking about God. I think he is really interested and open to the idea, which is why I feel like we are so close to reaching the final goal.

Jaws13 · #10 29th June 2009, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Rescuedsince04

Win arguments???

Yes, win arguments. Your friend is very logical, and logical people are not oft won over by logic, their strong suit, they are won over by emotions, their weak point.