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Old 27th June 2009, 07:37 AM
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Poverty is a Curse!

Walking in Wealth: Poverty Is A Curse Branching Out
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Old 27th June 2009, 02:12 PM
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How do you define "wealth"?
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Old 27th June 2009, 03:05 PM
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Wealth is having everything you need to survive and thrive personally and for your family (including eating better than the birds and being clothed better than Solomon) plus everything you need to do the will of God plus plenty more to put in store and leave an inheritance for our children's children, plus plenty more to give to others in need so our ears never need to be stopped up to the cry of the poor, plus plenty more to do good to the household of faith, plus plenty more to give to those who instruct us in the word of God and ensure elders are receiving double honour, plus plenty more to give to the extension of the kingdom of God.

Simple definition. I might have missed something out, if so I apologise.

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That's basically how I define it as well.

The reason I ask is because I think some get the impression that we believe that all Christians should be financially rich (millionaires). There are some prosperity preachers who actually teach this. I just wanted to know your definition of wealth.
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Old 27th June 2009, 04:19 PM
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No, wealth does not necessitate being a millionaire. Nothing wrong with being a millionaire - the church needs more of them than it has. And anyone can start moving their faith in that direction. Someone under 40 in a Western country could probably easily reach that place as they step into their destiny.

But not all people are happy launching out into their own business or ministry, and we need many faithful employees and so on. If someone is a carpenter we shouldn't expect them to be earning more than a doctor necessarily, and no amount of "faith" would change that.

I don't think I am expressing myself too well on this, so I hope I have made at least some sense.

It goes back to "according to your faith be it unto you", but it with wealth, it is also as the Lord gives you power to obtain wealth and as we all move into different fields to be salt and light, some of us naturally earn more money.

But with great riches comes great responsibility (to paraphrase Stan Lee!)

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I really liked the article in the link, Zub. It really blessed me. I think we're on the same page, brother. Be sure to give us a link next month when you write more on it.

I also agree with your definition of wealth.
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Ps 35V27 Let them shout for joy, and be glad, that favour my righteous cause: yea, let them say continually, Let the LORD be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant.

This scripture tells us God has pleasure in the prosperity (well being) of the servant that favours his righteous cause.

Notice tho what it doesn't say, it doesn't say that God takes pleasure in the poverty of his servant because he doesn't... God takes pleasure in the prosperity of his servant...
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Ps 35V27 Let them shout for joy, and be glad, that favour my righteous cause: yea, let them say continually, Let the LORD be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant.

This scripture tells us God has pleasure in the prosperity (well being) of the servant that favours his righteous cause.

Notice tho what it doesn't say, it doesn't say that God takes pleasure in the poverty of his servant because he doesn't... God takes pleasure in the prosperity of his servant...
Excellent comment. I might use this is the basis for my next post on Wealth, something like "God enjoys you having money".

Thanks for posting,

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