what do you like the least about conservative christianity?

hypocrisy is a big turn off...no matter what the source....

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i think hypocrisy is given too much emphasis, I mean we all fall short of the goal, that is why Christ had to die for our sins, because we can not do it on our own, at times we all make mistakes
it seems like the World shouts "hypocrit" every time a Christian messes up, lol I am not calling you worldly Cris, and there are many horrible hypocrits that give Christians a bad name, but I also think it is an over used cry

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Mixing Christianity with Politics. While I agree that theology is tied in with all aspects of human life for example abortion there is other issues which should not be pressed as the official "christian position" such as the hating everything obama does.

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Originally Posted by Rhamiel

i think hypocrisy is given too much emphasis, I mean we all fall short of the goal, that is why Christ had to die for our sins, because we can not do it on our own, at times we all make mistakes
it seems like the World shouts "hypocrit" every time a Christian messes up, lol I am not calling you worldly Cris, and there are many horrible hypocrits that give Christians a bad name, but I also think it is an over used cry

I agree. I am Christian, but I am not perfect. I try to live the best way I know how but I sin regularly. I do things that God specifically tells us not to do. I am very ashamed when I do them, but that doesn't erase the fact that it was done. Asking forgiveness from God does that....thank the Lord and for the grace He sends down to all of us.

Now when I tell the "world" that I am Christian, then the focus automatically revolves around my sins and thus I am labeled a hypocrite and I get the "old "I thought you said you were a Christian" remark. It is like they "caught" me or something.

So those who answered the OP's thread by saying what PEOPLE do, is not really answering the question. ALL Christian divisions have hypocrites and I will go out on a limb and say every pagan religion does as well, so that response is kind of ignorant.

What do I like the least about conservative Christianity itself? Nothing, it is the best way for me to worship God and Jesus and have the Holy Spirit work through me to do God's Will.

What do I like the least about me...a Conservative Christian? Sometimes I judge others and use meanness instead of love to get my point across.

You're right....and a very good point....the world does like to play the hypocrisy card A LOT....as do many "Christians"

Not everyone who makes a mistake or is not perfect is a hypocrit..

Skip Heitzig...the pastor in the teaching I posted in the Homeland Security thread makes pretty clear distinctions regarding these things...such as....when we as Christians....fall short...stumble...make mistakes...there is usually a sincere heart of repentence....or "struggle" with those things.

While the worldly tend to see nothing wrong with what they're doing...adultery, fornication, lying, cheating...whatever....I mean....all we have to do is take a look at our entertainment industry to see how most view such things as not only NOT WRONG...but in many ways DESIRABLE....

When I speak of hypocrisy....what I'm speaking of is....the do as say not as I do mentality that is the HEART heart and the norm of the issue...rather than just a momentary lapse in judgement....

....noting "hyprocrisy"...while often times abused....is still a reality...and pretty discouraging as well....particularly when it comes from well known Christian figures....dare I mention Jim Bakker?? He didn't just make a mistake....he was an ongoing ....out and out lying hypocrit at the time....but there is forgiveness for him too....just like all of us....


Usually...in political matters....which is what I was referring to...as in it's not only Conservative politicians that are guilty of hypocrisy and scandal....politicians in general more often than not....put forth a facade of whatever values and standards they think will get them elected...regardless of their own lives, thoughts and behaviors....and often times....consider their power can just cover it up or rationalize it and such.

I mean....it's almost epidemic proportions in our Government today...or maybe it always has been....but now with the mass 24/7 news programs and news hounds sniffing out as much dirty laundry as they can find...well....there ya are...and there ya go....

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Legalism. I don't see legalism as something conservative Christianity actually espouses, but many people who hold themselves to be conservative Christians fall into the trap of legalism.

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Please define legalism in the context that you are using it.

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I guess I'm in the minority because I don't dislike conservative Christianity at all. I may dislike some conservative Christians out there who misrepresent the Lord, but no - I do not have reservations or qualms about practicing Christianity conservatively.

If I had to give only one reason for having a slight problem with conservative Christianity, it would probably be that some conservative Christians who profess to be born-again like to label certain people as unsaved and/or not real Christians. But that is another can of worms.

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I don't mean any offense in any way, shape, or form, but what annoys me most about conservative Christianity is that there is often too much emphasis placed on politics, with a few (yes, I said a few) who actually believe with every fiber of their being that one is not a "real Christian" unless they are registered Republican and vote straight Republican (they are supposedly the party with the "best morals"). But I think politics, as a whole, is dirty no matter what the party is. Someone had brought up the sex scandals as an example, which goes to show that no party is exactly "lily-white". Plus, both main parties have agendas that aren't very moral. One party is not so good about tackling the issues of gay marriage and abortion, while the other is passive when it comes to creating programs to help the poor and needy, many of whom did not become that way through reckless and/or lazy lifestyles. Gay marriage and abortion are both immoral, but there are other issues to think about, too. Therefore, I find myself to be politically moderate.

As for being conservative when it comes to my personal walk and applying the Bible to my own life as best I can, I am all for that.

Anyhow, that's my two-cents-worth.

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Please define legalism in the context that you are using it.

This is the type of scenario I have in mind:

A minister in a denomination, such as the SBC, may not marry a woman who has been divorced, unless the previous marriage/divorce occcured pre-conversion to Christianity. The rule makes no provision for any scenario of pervasive abuse by the former husband, or the husband simply abandoning and forcing the woman to divorce. If she was a Christian before she got married and the guy decided to flake off and divorce her, then she is exhorted not to re-marry at all, and any minister who would fall in love with her would have to choose between his ministry and marrying her.

Basically, applying the letter of the law without any regard for the spirit of the law, of the intent behind the law, and of any extenuating circumstances, which result in punishing person A for person B's sins.

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I am the way, I am the light

I am the dark inside the night
I hear your hopes, I feel your dreams
And in the dark I hear your screams
Don't turn away, just take my hand
And when you make your final stand
I'll be right there ,I'll never leave
All I ask of you
Believe
-Believe by Savatage and the Trans-Siberian Orchestra

Don't fear tomorrow
And don't fear the night
It's where God repairs sorrows
That enter your life
-TSO

For the children are the architects of the future, and we are the architects of our children.
-Paul O'Neill

The world isn't the way it's supposed to be. That's why there's us. Champions. We live as though the world were as it should be, to show it what it can be.

-TV's Angel


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