. There are already several Christian†Forums threads devoted to discussing sexual perversion. I would prefer you not hijack this thread for that purpose. Below are links to some forums where people will no doubt be happy to address your particular concerns.
. When I was growing up as a young Catholic boy, it was sometimes difficult to remember my weekly sins on Saturday morning in preparation for confession. This growing compilation of New Testament commandments would have come in very handy as a check-list for those weekly evaluations.
42) Rom 14:1 . . Accept him whose faith is weak, without being judgmental in gray areas.
Note: a "weak faith" is one that's not sure one way or the other whether something is okay for Christians.
43) Rom 14:2-4 . . One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him.
44) Rom 14:5 . . One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
45) Rom 14:13 . . Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another in gray areas. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.
46) Rom 14:14-16 . . I know and am perfectly sure on the authority of the Lord Jesus that no food, in and of itself, is wrong to eat. But if someone believes it is wrong, then for that person it is wrong. And if another Christian is distressed by what you eat, you are not acting in love if you eat it. Don't let your eating ruin someone for whom Christ died. Then you will not be condemned for doing something you know is alright.
47) Rom 14:19 . . Let us aim for harmony in the church and try to build each other up.
48) Rom 14:20-21 . . Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
49) Rom 14:22-23 . . So whatever you personally believe in gray areas keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.
50) Rom 15:1-2 . . We may know that certain things make no difference, but we cannot just go ahead and do them to please ourselves. We must be considerate of the doubts and fears of those who believe certain things are wrong.
51) Rom 15:2 . . Each of us should accommodate his neighbor for his good, to build him up.
52) Rom 15:7 . . Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.
If you wish to discuss Judaism, please do so elsewhere. This area is reserved for Christian philosophy and ethics; and this thread's topic is Christianity's commandments— the topic of this thread is not the doctrine of either Christianity's grace nor Judaism's grace.
WB - what are you talking about? You raised the issue of Judaism.
Unless you know something of what you are talking about all you do is create ambiguity - you cannot divorce Christianity from Judaism.
Rather than claiming I'm attempting to derail the thread you might give some thought to the part Grace might play in your OP
Would you say the two commandments below are Christianity or Judaism?
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. At this point, I've listed no less than 60 commandments from the New Testament, and I'm not even through two of Paul's epistles yet. As anyone can plainly see, it takes a lot more than just the Old Testament's two "love" commandments to properly sanctify a Christian's conduct.
53) Rom 15:27 . . For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews' spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.
54) Rom 16:17-18 . . I urge you, brothers, beware of those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
Note: That particular commandment, along with Gal 1:6-9, 1Tim 1:3-4, 2Tim 2:15-18, 1John 2:18-19, and Jude 1:17-19, is the very reason why no serious student of the Bible should ever base their beliefs upon the writings of so-called "early church fathers" because even while the apostles were still alive, before they were even dead, there were already professing Christians spreading heresy and breaking away to start apostate movements. The moral is: a doctrine's antiquity does not eo ipso guarantee its reliability.
55) 1Cor 1:10 . . I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought.
56) 1Cor 1:26 . . Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth.
57) 1Cor 1:31 . . Let him who boasts; boast in the Lord.
Note: In other words; if you're going to brag about being a Christian, at least give God the credit for making you one rather than patting yourself on the back for making an intelligent decision.
58) 1Cor 3:18 . . If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise.
59) 1Cor 4:1 . . So then, men ought to regard us as servants of Christ, and as those entrusted with the secret things of God.
Note: Christians are so prone to fan-aticism and name-dropping. They practically worship the pastors of their churches, and the celebrities of the Christian world like Mother Teresa and Billy Graham; when they should recognize that those pastors and celebrities are mere servants rather than gods. Reverence for man is a dangerous trap; but whosoever puts their trust in The Lord will be safe. (Prv 29:25)
60) 1Cor 4:5 . .Judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till The Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and expose the motives of men's hearts.
What is being done here is wrong. Taking what Paul wrote and calling it New Testament commandments is not right. All the council that Solomon wrote is not called Old Testament commandments but they are true and important. Therefore what Paul wrote cannot be seen as New Testament commandments but they are true and important. And there are many of the "New Testament commandments" that came from the old testament anyway. I don't get the point of trying to make a division between commandments. Next someone will say that those in the New is for Christians and those in the old is for jews.
. RE: And there are many of the "New Testament commandments" that came from the old testament anyway. I don't get the point of trying to make a division between commandments.
If it is your wish to discuss every commandment in the whole Bible that applies to Christians, then you will simply have to create a new thread of your own for that purpose. Here, for the Nth time, is a reprint of this thread's OP.
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Christianity's Commandments.
22nd June 2009, 02:46 PM PDT
I thought it might be fun to dig around in the New Testament and locate some commandments that are particular to Christianity rather than Judaism.
Note: Please do not use this thread as a venue to discuss either Jews, Judaism, or the Old Testament's commandments. The focus of this thread is strictly Christ's commandments as per the New Testament; not the Old.
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. Does Mtt 7:1-5 condemn all judging? No, it only condemns judging with a double standard.
61) John 7:24 . . judge righteous judgment.
Righteous judgment can be defined as the enforcement of rules without passion or prejudice; which is why Justice is depicted as a woman wearing a blindfold.
Christians are not only encouraged to judge, but they are mandated to judge. Read on.
62) 1Cor 5:1-7 . . I can hardly believe the report about the sexual immorality going on among you, something so evil that even the pagans don't do it. I am told that you have a man in your church who is living in sin with his father's wife. And you are so proud of yourselves! Why aren't you mourning in sorrow and shame? And why haven't you removed this man from your fellowship?
63) Even though I am not there with you in person, I am with you in The Spirit. Concerning the one who has done this, I have already passed judgment in the name of the Lord Jesus. You are to call a meeting of the church, and I will be there in spirit, and the power of the Lord Jesus will be with you as you meet. Then you must cast this man out of the church and into Satan's hands, so that his sinful nature will be destroyed and he himself will be spared when The Lord returns.
64) How terrible that you should boast about your spirituality, and yet you let this sort of thing go on. Don't you realize that if even one person is allowed to go on sinning, soon all will be affected? Remove this wicked person from among you so that you can stay pure.
65) 1Cor 5:7-8 . . Christ, our Passover Lamb, has been sacrificed for us. So let us celebrate the festival, not by eating the old bread of wickedness and evil, but by eating the new bread of purity and truth.
66) 1Cor 5:9-13 . . When I wrote to you before, I told you not to associate with people who indulge in sexual sin. But I wasn't talking about unbelievers who indulge in sexual sin, or who are greedy or are swindlers or idol worshipers. You would have to leave this world to avoid people like that. What I meant was that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a Christian yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or a drunkard, or a swindler. Don't even eat with such people. It isn't my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your job to judge those inside the church who are sinning in these ways. God will judge those on the outside; but you must remove the evil person from among you.
67) 1Cor 6:1-6 . . If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church! I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? But instead, one brother goes to law against another-and this in front of unbelievers!
68) 1Cor 6:7-8 . . The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brethren.
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. 69) 1Cor 6:9-10 . . Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
70) 1Cor 6:18 . . Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.
71) 1Cor 6:20 . . Honor God with your body.
72) 1Cor 7:2-3 . . Since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.
73) 1Cor 7:3 . .The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.
74) 1Cor 7:5 . . Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
75) 1Cor 7:8-9 . . Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
76) 1Cor 7:10-11 . . To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband.
77) 1Cor 7:11. . A husband must not divorce his wife.
78) 1Cor 7:12 . . To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.
79) 1Cor 7:13 . . If a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.
80) 1Cor 7:15 . . If the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. A believing man or woman is not bound in such circumstances.
81) 1Cor 7:17 . . Nevertheless, each one should retain the place in life that the Lord assigned to him and to which God has called him. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches.
82) 1Cor 7:18a . . Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised.
83) 1 Cor 7:18b . .Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised.
84) 1Cor 7:20 . . Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him.
85) 1Cor 7:21 . .Were you a slave when you were called? Don't let it trouble you—although if you can gain your freedom, do so.
86) 1Cor 7:23 . .You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men.
87) 1Cor 7:24 . . Brethren, each individual, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation God called him to.
. 88) 1Cor 7:25-28 . . Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord's mercy is trustworthy. Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for you to remain as you are. Are you married? Do not seek a divorce. Are you unmarried? Do not look for a wife. But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned.
Note: The "present crisis" relates to circumstances that make it difficult and/or inadvisable to settle down and raise a family, e.g. Jer 16:1-4 and Mtt 24:19-22.
89) 1Cor 7:36 . . If anyone thinks he is acting improperly toward the virgin he is engaged to, and if she is getting along in years and he feels he ought to marry, he should do as he wants. He is not sinning. They should get married.
90) 1Cor 7:39 . . A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must be in the Lord.
. I should probably mention now and again that it's okay if somebody wants to jump in and comment on any and/or all of the New Testament commandments I've been posting.
91) 1Cor 8:4-13 . .We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world and that there is no God but one. For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords"), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
. . But not everyone knows this. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat such food they think of it as having been sacrificed to an idol, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.
. . Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. For if anyone with a weak conscience sees you who have this knowledge eating in an idol's temple, won't he be emboldened to eat what has been sacrificed to idols? So this weak brother, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. When you sin against your brothers in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause him to fall.
NOTE: 1Cor 8:4-13 can be said to be a codicil to the 14th chapter of Romans.
Putting this into a modern context is pretty simple; e.g. here in Oregon we have tavern-style restaurants; viz: a portion of the tavern is a bar, and another portion is dedicated to serving meals. Suppose you have Christian friends who feel it is wrong to patronize a tavern-style restaurant because of the alcohol. Would you take them out to dinner at one? God forbid!
Though you yourself might be convinced in your own mind that there is no sin in dining at taverns, your friends are not so sure. So if they were to accompany you to the tavern, they would be committing sin in compromising their conscience; and you would be committing sin by putting them in a situation that causes them to make that compromise.
A pertinent example is HOOTERS; where the waitresses are cute buxom girls filled out in all the right places clothed in short shorts, and clingy tops; so that the situation is a double whammy of sex and alcohol. Is it intrinsically wrong for Christians to patronize HOOTERS? No. But supposing an individual Christian feels it's wrong. Then for them, it is wrong; and you would be wrong in taking them to dine there because you would be leading them into a situation that causes them to compromise their convictions.
The moral of the story is: When you truly love people, you won't lead them into sin; even if the sin is only in their minds.
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