while the genetic question still remains, the biological one is not so questionable anymore. There is conclusive evidence that the brains of homosexuals are different from heterosexuals. So, while it cannot yet be said that it is genetic, it is already quite conclusive that they are, indeed, born that way.
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They are not born that way but due to genetics and other factors, some ppl are just effeminate but not gay. I would think homosexuals are made, due to things happening in their life, and not born that way.
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Well, I guess the operative phrase there is "I would think". Again, regardless what we think about it's origin, it's an inclination that's disordered according to Christian understanding and must be resisted just like all other disordered inclinations.
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Because we are all born sinners. Being born homosexual is just one sinful nature out of many that the Bible says we are to overcome through Him.
So to follow on from this...... as in Romans 11:32.[bible] For God has imprisoned all people in their own disobedience so He could have mercy on everyone.[/bible]
Could it be that as we are all under the weight of sin.......God has done this so that we all need to turn to Him......and to quote
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To be honest, nobody knows for sure but it really doesn't matter. We know that the flesh we inherit from our parents contains the stain of original sin. Baptism washes this away, but concupiscence (the tendency toward sin) remains.
The fact is, all people have some tendency toward some type of inherently sinful behavior that they constantly struggle against. For some, it may be a tendency toward drunkenness or wrath, for others, it may be greed, gluttony, or indulgence, for still others it may be more serious things like pedophilia, adultery, etc.
In all these cases, whether the source is nature or nurture one has the grace of knowing right from wrong and must further seek the grace to resist the urge to those things that we know are sinful.
The debate of whether or not the tendency toward homosexuality is genetic is immaterial. Why is nobody asking the same thing about serial killers, adulterers or pedophiles? Well, because we recognize that it doesn't matter. If you feel a natural tendency toward any of these the source is immaterial (apart from trying to prevent it in the future). The same is true for homosexuality.
So....is a good conclusion.....as we are born into sin....with many different types of behaviour......because of the age we live in.......we all need to turn to God and rely on Him......for all sin through Jesus can be erased and overcome.
Thinking about this.....God has a lot of emotional people leaning on Him......how does He do it ......I have a wife and children.....that is enough for me.
To have many wives and children.....well......God forbid.
Which aspect of being homosexual goes against God's laws?
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Well, I guess the operative phrase there is "I would think". Again, regardless what we think about it's origin, it's an inclination that's disordered according to Christian understanding and must be resisted just like all other disordered inclinations.
I know a few homosexual people, and I honestly couldn't say that any of them come across as disordered.
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We'll keep the red flag flying here.
But it shows what God's laws are, according to which he created the universe. God created the world in which homosexuality naturally happens and doesn't cause any harm.
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Well....I ask this question for a number of families I know have children who are inclined this way..
My question relates to why is this happening....are people born this way....that is.... in their DNA or are other factors at play here.
Also.. why does it happen in Christian families.
From our Makers perspective.....I wonder why this is so?
I would appreciate your thoughtful views.
In my opinion, homosexuality is "learned", as is heterosexuality. I say this because I do not believe that young children, before hitting puberty, experience any real sexual desire when they appear to find a fascination regarding sexual contact, whether it be with men or women. I positively affirm that children are born asexual (which is why a baby breastfeeding is not considered either heterosexual or homosexual sexual, for instance), and I regard what many may believe to be "homosexual tendencies" in ones so young to be nothing more than non-sexual curiosity.
That's my take.
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Which aspect of being homosexual goes against God's laws?
Homosexual lust, and all forms of consummating it. Eros is for heterosexual relationships only, and within certain boundaries.
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while the genetic question still remains, the biological one is not so questionable anymore. There is conclusive evidence that the brains of homosexuals are different from heterosexuals. So, while it cannot yet be said that it is genetic, it is already quite conclusive that they are, indeed, born that way.
It doesn't follow that because homosexuals brains "are different" that they have therefore been that way since birth. The brain is constantly changing and many things have an affect on it. For instance, that a man's brainwaves change in deep meditation or prayer doesn't mean that he has always been in deep meditation or prayer, only that he currently is.
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