It appears that the second sentence actually may have been intended to be omitted. It is simply referring to the site and not to an external BoD.
Why not a board??? I think this is so essential if Christian Forums is ever to break out and become something truly great and inspiring; no other Christian organization has yet managed to organize a truly Christian forum with world-wide appeal.
But it is simply not possible for any one person to have the vision needed to properly manage a site like this that has the potential to reach people world-wide. So imagine what would happen if this site was managed using the collective wisdom and dedication provided by a group of respected Christian leaders recruited from all corners of the earth.
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Only the Holy Spirit can eliminate elitism through the graces of humility and charity. He showers His blessings, but few are willing to receive. Only through Christ can we be made one.
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So true, but the owner must do his part and as a past mod, super and admin here I speak from experience that the model of management at this site actually encourages elitism within its ranks which I eventually reached an irreconcilable impasse with.
The management model here is overly-convoluted and needs to be revamped with a model that works for each particular area imo.
Pluralism and religious toleration do not equate to Christian unity. In fact, they can work against ecumenism which is why there is an ongoing and unceasing state of divorce and strife in so many areas of this board.
Though I doubt anyone would listen, I do know of a model of management that does work much better and would remove much conflict and instill more peace and love between so many here with wonderfully good hearts.
Peace.
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Though I doubt anyone would listen, I do know of a model of management that does work much better and would remove much conflict and instill more peace and love between so many here with wonderfully good hearts.
Peace.
Please, please share this.
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I have to ask. What is Pauler's commitment to actually seeing this vision through, given that he posted it and has been absent ever since.
Do keep in mind he posted it late Friday afternoon & it is a weekend.
Originally Posted by Servant of Jesus
Why not a board??? I think this is so essential if Christian Forums is ever to break out and become something truly great and inspiring; no other Christian organization has yet managed to organize a truly Christian forum with world-wide appeal.
But it is simply not possible for any one person to have the vision needed to properly manage a site like this that has the potential to reach people world-wide. So imagine what would happen if this site was managed using the collective wisdom and dedication provided by a group of respected Christian leaders recruited from all corners of the earth.
I'm not saying it's not a great idea (actually, I think it is a great idea); rather, an external Board of Directors is not what Pauler was referring to in the vision statement. However, that would be a great suggestion - have you mentioned it in the Suggestion/Complaint Box?
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I think Erwin tried to have a board of pastors, but it did not work. It is hard to come to a consensus. Someone will always feel alienated or ignored by the majority vote. And the majority will have to compromise so that no one is ever 100 percent satisfied.
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I like it the way it is.. it is not perfect, but at least everyone has a corner in which to fellowship with like believers and a place to duke it out with others on theological matters, and pray with all those in need of prayer. There is place to witness to the new believers and seekers, there is a place for the different ministries to share. ... it will hopefully continue to grow.. and continue to need new corners in which more people can go to talk certain subjects and share with others of like mind.
I do not think we should think of this as a church.. because then you will ultimately get into which church... and then the walls will come up, the congregations will get kicked out, and the CF will shrink as the doors close on the rights of some to think differently.
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IMHO a key ingredient to improve this forum is an actual method to hold Mod's accountable for their actions... the current *suggestion complaint* model is useless in my experience here in multiple issues at different times... I for one have given up any hope of working to change CF for the better... I have chosen to stay for the sake of relationships with good people here, but I have little respect for several in leadership positions here at CF...
I hope that didn't go over the line in *discussing* staff actions, but this is an issue that has been brought up multiple times by multiple people and has not been addressed in any meaningful way to my knowledge yet...
Is there any plan to impliment any changes to bring about real accountability esspecially for the Blue A level staff?
I founded a discussion forum (and have since transferred ownership to another) with the thinking that it would be a "church". That was incorrect. A church has sacraments that are administered, God is worshiped, is lead by ordained leaders, and practices biblical discipline. After wise counsel from others it was clear to me that my forum was never going to be some kind of "internet church". Instead the forum I founded is a ministry for training, education, theology, worship, and discussion. To claim CF as a church, in my opinion, does dishonor to the biblical teachings about the church. Better to wrap your vision around a personal ministry where your gifts can be used to bring glory to God. When I review many of the threads here as a newcomer, I see many that do not bring glory to God. That is unfortunate and a situation that would require a great deal of immediate action on your part (church discipline) should you consider CF a "church".
I am lifting up prayers for you, that God will guide you as you undertake this new endeavor. I feel you pain and know how hard this task can be, my brother. Let your litmus test for all that you do be "Am I glorifying God?" and you no doubt will be successful.
AMR
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IMHO a key ingredient to improve this forum is an actual method to hold Mod's accountable for their actions... the current *suggestion complaint* model is useless in my experience here in multiple issues at different times... I for one have given up any hope of working to change CF for the better... I have chosen to stay for the sake of relationships with good people here, but I have little respect for several in leadership positions here at CF...
I hope that didn't go over the line in *discussing* staff actions, but this is an issue that has been brought up multiple times by multiple people and has not been addressed in any meaningful way to my knowledge yet...
Is there any plan to impliment any changes to bring about real accountability esspecially for the Blue A level staff?
Here...
Ty
Ditto'd
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I saw the link for this thread in another and thought it might be good to comment at the outset. Having read this thread I don't think I'll bother - in it are all the ingredients that have made others sell-on CF and we are only up to page 3!
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