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Old 19th June 2009, 06:26 AM
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Same Sex Marriage, please cast your vote.

Please cast your vote, I'm concerned "YES" seems to be in front.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/pol...040217,00.html



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Old 19th June 2009, 07:02 AM
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Why does equal rights concern you?
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It's not equal rights.

It's taking a traditional institution that has existed unchanged in most Western culture (Vikings being the exception) for over a millenia.

If you want equal rights, make a contract with one another or convince insurance companies to recognize you in some status -- do not change my traditional institution and my heritage.

(One could also point out that in the majority of all societies, including our precious Eastern hemisphere, homosexual marriage has never existed and never will).
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Originally Posted by jmverville View Post
It's not equal rights.

It's taking a traditional institution that has existed unchanged in most Western culture (Vikings being the exception) for over a millenia.

If you want equal rights, make a contract with one another or convince insurance companies to recognize you in some status -- do not change my traditional institution and my heritage.

(One could also point out that in the majority of all societies, including our precious Eastern hemisphere, homosexual marriage has never existed and never will).
Well, it does now. Get over it.
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LOL

It is kind of sad that people would be concerned about an Australian tabloid newspaper's online poll.

I'm not really sure what flooding it with no votes achieves either... would it make anyone less "concerned" to know that the poll only said what they wanted it to say because they manipulated it?

Fortunately it doesn't determine Australian policies, we will see full equality soon enough and it won't be a moment too soon.
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Originally Posted by jmverville View Post
It's not equal rights.

It's taking a traditional institution that has existed unchanged in most Western culture (Vikings being the exception) for over a millenia.

If you want equal rights, make a contract with one another or convince insurance companies to recognize you in some status -- do not change my traditional institution and my heritage.

(One could also point out that in the majority of all societies, including our precious Eastern hemisphere, homosexual marriage has never existed and never will).
Next thing you know, women will be allowed to vote, and Jews and Catholics will be allowed to graduate from Oxford University.
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Originally Posted by KCKID View Post
Well, it does now. Get over it.
You are wrong.

It might change for as long as 100 years, but it will always come back to good, old fashioned stoicism and conservatism. It's the way history works, and you know it.

There were dramatic moments of massive liberal changes in the 17th and 18th century, and even massive attempts at economic collectivization in the 16th, 9th, 5th centuries in Europe and the ME, and in China in the 3rd century BC amongst other occasions.

But all of these movements were brief and quickly ended.

Rome was restored by Augustine with things like the law that illegalized adultery in 18 BC, and then when he died it fell again to immoral hands who subsequently self-destructed the entire Empire.

Every nation who adopts gay marriage, normalizes homosexuality, normalizes sin and adultery, will quickly be destroyed by the natural factors that contribute to the downfall of it...

Humans were meant to live Godly and stoic lives -- if we do not live the way God wants us to live it is natural for us to fail.

Just wait and see...

Liberalism and atheism always triumph after a while, but their time of triumph is always so shortlived, and we always come back.

We'll be back, KCKID, and your grandchildren will be chuckling at you the way you chuckle at your grandparents...

The way you think your grandparents are too old fashioned your grandchildren will think of you.

This is the Way of the World, and It Cannot Be Stopped.
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Next thing you know, women will be allowed to vote, and Jews and Catholics will be allowed to graduate from Oxford University.
That is all fine, as long as people don't dilute the purity of the bloodline with inter-racial marriage.
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Originally Posted by jmverville View Post
You are wrong.

It might change for as long as 100 years, but it will always come back to good, old fashioned stoicism and conservatism. It's the way history works, and you know it.

...

This is the Way of the World, and It Cannot Be Stopped.
If that is true, why are you and so many others so concerned? If it is inevitably going to return to what you want, there is nothing to fear, right?
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Next thing you know, women will be allowed to vote, and Jews and Catholics will be allowed to graduate from Oxford University.
These comparisons are entirely off-topic.

Jews and catholics are citizens and humans who want the same right as other people, so are women, to cast a vote or to 'graduate.'

Homosexuals have those rights -- we simply have prevented them from entering an institution that is BY DEFINITION, BY DEFINITION, BY DEFINITION against what they PRACTICE.

This would be more like saying "Next thing you know, women will be allowed to call themselves men on applications, and Jews and Catholics will be able to insist that they are Muslims in order to go on the Hajj to Mecca."
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