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19th June 2009, 10:10 PM
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I do not respond to this type of reply. You need to have an argument in your reply. |
19th June 2009, 10:17 PM
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I'm not making an argument, juvie. I am simply trying to understand what you mean by denigrating palaeontology. Clearly, I am wasting my time, though.
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Reps: 5,038,481,752,567,930 (power: 5,038,481,752,583) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun I do not respond to this type of reply. You need to have an argument in your reply.
juvie he's asking you to elucidate and/or elaborate, why on earth wouldn't you want to do that? You do want us to actually understand what you're saying don't you? 
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by Mallon
I'm not making an argument, juvie. I am simply trying to understand what you mean by denigrating palaeontology. Clearly, I am wasting my time, though.
I made an explanation (good or bad). It is not good to me that you only say: I don't get it. I am not teaching a student. I expect that you to pick a problem or to make an argument. My simple reply covered A LOT of ground (an abstract type). I did that because I am talking to a paleontologist. To give an example is not a proper thing to do to you, because I assumed you know all of them. If you really want an example, be specific on what example you like to see (I am not a paleontologist, I may not have an example. But I might). I believe once I gave it, it would not be new to you. |
20th June 2009, 11:00 PM
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Reps: 26,510,215,182,048,496 (power: 26,510,215,182,059) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun I made an explanation (good or bad). It is not good to me that you only say: I don't get it. I am not teaching a student. I expect that you to pick a problem or to make an argument. My simple reply covered A LOT of ground (an abstract type).
LOL, cmon juvie, you cover a lot of ground, vaguely? Originally Posted by juvenissun I did that because I am talking to a paleontologist. To give an example is not a proper thing to do to you, because I assumed you know all of them. If you really want an example, be specific on what example you like to see (I am not a paleontologist, I may not have an example. But I might). I believe once I gave it, it would not be new to you.
So you want him to name examples that back up your claim? I think I speak for him and the rest of us when I say that if you make a claim that something works in a certain way, you are the one who needs to provide the examples that led you to that conclusion.
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by Mallon If we're willing to recognize organisms as diverse as these as "fish": 
... then to be consistent, we must recognize ourselves as apes, biologically, because apes show much less diversity of form. 
It all started from this post (which invoked my response).
Mallon sees fishes and apes, a view from a paleontologist (morphology oriented, and based on skeleton only).
I see human and animals. This is a conclusion that paleontology can not give (not a chance).
Why is mine any less scientific? |
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