Adam & Eve

If he were, I would concede but his arguments were similar to your and I similarly disassembled them. His phrase, " I'll do everything I can to agree with you, but I draw the line at saying the Bible is wrong." indicates that he'll agree with me if he sees the logic or reason in my arguments but that he won't admit that the Bible is wrong even if he agrees with me.

Whether he agrees with you matters not. Whether you agree with God matters. I think you can relax. The bible is actually God's book, and it is right. As in the only example you gave, and I expounded on. No worries at all.

Allrighty.

So, are you gonna answer my other post or just disappear like AV?

Must have missed it. What was the question?

I do hope that you realize that to quote the Bible to prove that Bible is true is a bit pointless to someone like me.

Here's the meaning of 'immovable' from dictionary.com

1. Incapable of being moved; firmly fixed; fast; -- used of material things; as, an immovable foundatin. Immovable, infixed, and frozen round. --Milton.
2. Steadfast; fixed; unalterable; unchangeable; -- used of the mind or will; as, an immovable purpose, or a man who remain immovable.
3. Not capable of being affected or moved in feeling or by sympathy; unimpressible; impassive. --Dryden.

Or from Strong's Concordance:
It's from the Hebrew mowt meaning:

to totter, shake, slipa) (Qal) to totter, shake, slip
b) (Niphal) to be shaken, be moved, be overthrown
c) (Hiphil) to dislodge, let fall, drop
d) (Hithpael) to be greatly shaken

The word used in the Bible and the word used in the modern translations are all talking about LITERAL and ACTUAL movement. They are saying that the Earth can literally not be shaken, moved, or dislodged. However it does move, shake, and it's definitely not lodged into anything.

Ha. I don't see anyone shaking the earth, do you? No one will ever disturb it much, God is moving here. It is protected.

Do you think the guy's heart moved out of his body!?? No. We need to get the spirit of what is being said. And meant.

Here. it almost seems like moved means sort of out of the place God has for him. It takes many verse sometimes to shed light on what a word can be used for.

So, what, good guys will be frozen and never move???? No.

The king...what, sat on the throne, never batting an eyelash for the rest of his life?? Not walking to his bed even?? Absurd.

So if someone moves, we know he is not righteous?

In the same book, we see this. In other words this world is established, it ain't going anywhere, or those that believe. Ever. Yes, we will move. No we will not be moved. Get it yet? I can go on. And on, and on if needed.

The bible was right after all. God is a smart cookie.

Coolness.

Basically, what you're getting at is that the Bible can be metaphorical, poetic, and allegorical in its writings and it's up to each of us to find out what it means. Got it.

With this new information, how do you distinguish the parts to be taken literally (6 days of creation, etc) and which ones are just for flair (immovable earth, etc)?

No. It is up to the spirit to reveal it to us. We need to get the spirit of the word, the letter kills. Behind the appearances of dead words, is a vibrant, living, hot contact with another world, and God, and the future and the past.

No. It is up to the spirit to reveal it to us. We need to get the spirit of the word, the letter kills. Behind the appearances of dead words, is a vibrant, living, hot contact with another world, and God, and the future and the past.

If it means what it means...it means what it means. If it merely seems to mean what some would prefer it to mean, it is better to stick with what it obviously means. The idea that neither us nor the earth actually moves physically is absurd. But the time of creation is fact.

If all else fails ask for God's help to get it.

No --- your brain would "reprogram" your heart.

It would be like getting a new hard drive.