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10th August 2009, 06:35 AM
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Reps: 9,787,281,344,209,040 (power: 9,787,281,344,217) | | well, here it goes... i have been dealing with a situation at my church for over a year. i am so ashamed to say that i am angry at my pastor, and need to forgive him and probably a whole list of others along with him. i wish i could tell him that, but it would not change anything. i no longer dance at my church. when i first started attending there three years ago, no one knew that i was a dancer, i did not tell them. people found out because i would praise the Lord at my seat or in the back during praise & worship, out of the way and sight of people, but eventually people found out. pretty soon, i was being asked to minister in the dance for various events at church, and i was asked to teach dance during VBS and did so for two years, because the person who was supposed to be doing it was known to not show up, bad attitude, etc. the parents liked me, and wanted me to keep teaching them, so i spoke with my pastor about it and he released me to do it. BUT the church secretary kept blocking it, saying that there was no one to open the church for me, she didn't want too many people having keys, and every other excuse. in the meantime, i became ill. but while i was recovering, i took some of the young ladies to a dance conference so they could get a good start in seeing what dance ministry was about. they enjoyed it, and learned a lot. meanwhile, i prayed about it and wrote a proposal for the ministry, and presented it to my pastor, who approved it. resurrection sunday 2008, i opened the church bulletin and was surprised to see that the person who disappeared from the dance ministry was starting it up again. no one ever told me. what made it so bad, is that what they did was done so poorly. even worse, the Easter before that, they took almost every choreographic move i did during praise & worsihp and put it into a dance that they did for the congregation. i know this because she and the church secretary would stand in the balcony and watch me and i would see them in my peripheral vision. i scheduled an appointment with pastor to find out what happened. i told him that i didn't know that they were doing this, and he said "i didn't know either". (how could he not know). but the real story is, that she and the church secretary were friends, so she fixed it for her. i know we are supposed to have unity. but i refuse to be be under anyone who does not worship God, fights, cusses and has a bad attitude all the time. i will not dance with anyone who does not pray or only has a rehearsal when it's time to dance and be seen. their garments look bad, they don't fit properly. i could go on and on. but i won't. i no longer get asked to dance at my church, i feel as if i have been kicked to the curb. meanwhile i get invitations to dance in other churches, and i help teach dance at another ministry. when people ask me if i dance at my church, it does not feel right to tell them "no". but i don't. they let the others dance instead. i know that our gift makes room for us. i don't know why i am being treated this way, i pray, i attend classes regularly, i do everything i know to do to present a worthy dance to the Lord. but at my church, i am treated like a stepchild. the worst is, no children are being taught how to minister in dance. this person is holding a postion and a title, but is doing nothing with it. my pastor told me "it's not your time to shine". what does that mean? he told me that dance during praise and worship was a distraction, yet he allowed her and her friends to do it, and it was raggedy. they didn't even have on dance garments, they had on all different types of street clothes and their dance was contrived. it hurt to see it. they are allowed to dance at retreats, and at the church anniversary, and i have been kicked to the curb. i am so angry. i know i need to forgive so i can move on. i don't want God to be angry with me, because of what is in my heart.
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"I will tell of the kindnesses of the LORD, the deeds for which He is to be praised, according to all the LORD has done for me..."
-Isaiah 63:7
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10th August 2009, 08:29 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,800) | | I hurt for you, bithia. Before I go on, brinny, that family is doing okay now. The mom is back home with her children. Thanks for praying. 
bithia, in 3 min.....I'll have to come back later......
I hear you. I know you know - the Lord sees. He is a God of justice. Yes, your gift makes room. Promotion comes form Him. He sees your integrity. Beopen to whatever He leads, to go, to stay, to confront, to forgive - everything He shows you to do, keep doing.
I want to give you this. 
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Philippians 3:7 But everything that was a gain to me, I have considered to be a loss because of Christ. 8 More than that, I also consider everything to be a loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. Because of Him I have suffered the loss of all things and consider them filth, so that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own from the law, but one that is through faith in Christ —the righteousness from God based on faith. 10 [My goal] is to know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, |
10th August 2009, 10:15 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,800) | | bithia, I'm glad you're here. I want this to be a place for everyone to come and find a home, to be loved and accepted. This is a place where we rally around the hurting and pray you through.
I can't tell you what to do. For one thing, I don't know enough. I would say this though, be sure whether you are to be in that church or not. If not, leave peaceably, if the Lord shows you to move on. Assuming you're staying and that IS your church, be watchful to not allow a root of bitterness, which you seem to be doing. It's a sneaky deceptive feeling that can work its way in. Sometimes we think we are not bitter, but there it is tucked away in our heart. What you're faced with certainly gives opportunity for it, it sounds like a painful, unjust situation. And it is hurting ALL the body too, if the Lord set you there, it is to offer yourself, your gift, and all you are to the fellow members. When one hurts, or is restricted, it affects all.
But you can go free. Obedience to the Lord has a way of setting us free. Your joy cannot be dimmed as you walk with Him. And in time He will resolve it. He will lift you up. Keep honoring them, all the leadership, the staff, even the dancer with no integrity.
I see you wearing a beautiful necklace. Your kindness and grace that are displayed towards all of them is as a beautiful adornment around your neck. Heaven sees it, and so do all in the spirit realm. As you walk in His beauty of love, you carry yourself with dignity and grace, a lovely sight.
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Philippians 3:7 But everything that was a gain to me, I have considered to be a loss because of Christ. 8 More than that, I also consider everything to be a loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. Because of Him I have suffered the loss of all things and consider them filth, so that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own from the law, but one that is through faith in Christ —the righteousness from God based on faith. 10 [My goal] is to know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, |
10th August 2009, 12:12 PM
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Reps: 223,732,272,228,398,592 (power: 223,732,272,228,403) | | Originally Posted by CindyisHis  Amen, our help comes from the Lord! I pray you receive much this week. Since you meditate on His Word day and night you WILL find success in all you set your hand to. Joshua 1:8 and Psalm 1.  Thanks
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10th August 2009, 01:32 PM
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"I will tell of the kindnesses of the LORD, the deeds for which He is to be praised, according to all the LORD has done for me..."
-Isaiah 63:7
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10th August 2009, 01:47 PM
|  | everlovin' shiner of light in dark places
  
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by bithiah2 well, here it goes... i have been dealing with a situation at my church for over a year. i am so ashamed to say that i am angry at my pastor, and need to forgive him and probably a whole list of others along with him. i wish i could tell him that, but it would not change anything. i no longer dance at my church. when i first started attending there three years ago, no one knew that i was a dancer, i did not tell them. people found out because i would praise the Lord at my seat or in the back during praise & worship, out of the way and sight of people, but eventually people found out. pretty soon, i was being asked to minister in the dance for various events at church, and i was asked to teach dance during VBS and did so for two years, because the person who was supposed to be doing it was known to not show up, bad attitude, etc. the parents liked me, and wanted me to keep teaching them, so i spoke with my pastor about it and he released me to do it. BUT the church secretary kept blocking it, saying that there was no one to open the church for me, she didn't want too many people having keys, and every other excuse. in the meantime, i became ill. but while i was recovering, i took some of the young ladies to a dance conference so they could get a good start in seeing what dance ministry was about. they enjoyed it, and learned a lot. meanwhile, i prayed about it and wrote a proposal for the ministry, and presented it to my pastor, who approved it. resurrection sunday 2008, i opened the church bulletin and was surprised to see that the person who disappeared from the dance ministry was starting it up again. no one ever told me. what made it so bad, is that what they did was done so poorly. even worse, the Easter before that, they took almost every choreographic move i did during praise & worsihp and put it into a dance that they did for the congregation. i know this because she and the church secretary would stand in the balcony and watch me and i would see them in my peripheral vision. i scheduled an appointment with pastor to find out what happened. i told him that i didn't know that they were doing this, and he said "i didn't know either". (how could he not know). but the real story is, that she and the church secretary were friends, so she fixed it for her. i know we are supposed to have unity. but i refuse to be be under anyone who does not worship God, fights, cusses and has a bad attitude all the time. i will not dance with anyone who does not pray or only has a rehearsal when it's time to dance and be seen. their garments look bad, they don't fit properly. i could go on and on. but i won't. i no longer get asked to dance at my church, i feel as if i have been kicked to the curb. meanwhile i get invitations to dance in other churches, and i help teach dance at another ministry. when people ask me if i dance at my church, it does not feel right to tell them "no". but i don't. they let the others dance instead. i know that our gift makes room for us. i don't know why i am being treated this way, i pray, i attend classes regularly, i do everything i know to do to present a worthy dance to the Lord. but at my church, i am treated like a stepchild. the worst is, no children are being taught how to minister in dance. this person is holding a postion and a title, but is doing nothing with it. my pastor told me "it's not your time to shine". what does that mean? he told me that dance during praise and worship was a distraction, yet he allowed her and her friends to do it, and it was raggedy. they didn't even have on dance garments, they had on all different types of street clothes and their dance was contrived. it hurt to see it. they are allowed to dance at retreats, and at the church anniversary, and i have been kicked to the curb. i am so angry. i know i need to forgive so i can move on. i don't want God to be angry with me, because of what is in my heart.
is this you, dear sister? it brought tears to my eyes. God may be removing you from the midst of such wickedness. Keep praying and releasing it to Him and listen carefully for His leading. Do not put a "church" or the inhabitants above Him. Be ready to move on, kicxking the dust off. He has plans for you, my sister, and precious daughter of the Most High God.
__________________ "Prove all things;
hold fast that which is good.
Abstain from all appearance of evil."
~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
10th August 2009, 01:50 PM
| | everlovin' shiner of light in dark places
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by CindyisHis I hurt for you, bithia. Before I go on, brinny, that family is doing okay now. The mom is back home with her children. Thanks for praying.
bithia, in 3 min.....I'll have to come back later......
I hear you. I know you know - the Lord sees. He is a God of justice. Yes, your gift makes room. Promotion comes form Him. He sees your integrity. Beopen to whatever He leads, to go, to stay, to confront, to forgive - everything He shows you to do, keep doing.
I want to give you this.
praise GoD!!!!!!!  God is good!!!!!!
__________________ "Prove all things;
hold fast that which is good.
Abstain from all appearance of evil."
~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
10th August 2009, 02:44 PM
| | Jah is my strength and song!
| | Join Date: 12th June 2006 Location: metro
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Reps: 9,787,281,344,209,040 (power: 9,787,281,344,217) | | Originally Posted by brinny is this you, dear sister? it brought tears to my eyes. God may be removing you from the midst of such wickedness. Keep praying and releasing it to Him and listen carefully for His leading. Do not put a "church" or the inhabitants above Him. Be ready to move on, kicxking the dust off. He has plans for you, my sister, and precious daughter of the Most High God.
no, this is not me dancing. i was listening to the song and wanted to see if anyone danced to it, and i found this video. the movements spoke what i was feeling. i wish i had done it but i would not copy her dance.
thank you for your response. God has better for me. but i want to forgive and move on.
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"I will tell of the kindnesses of the LORD, the deeds for which He is to be praised, according to all the LORD has done for me..."
-Isaiah 63:7
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11th August 2009, 06:14 PM
| | Jah is my strength and song!
| | Join Date: 12th June 2006 Location: metro
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Reps: 9,787,281,344,209,040 (power: 9,787,281,344,217) | | | thank you ladies.
i feel better, sunday i am going to visit another church. i hope i don't have to visit 20 of them before i find one that is for me, where i can hear God's Word and give the gifts that i have, particularly to the children. my burden is for the children. i want to see them become worshippers of the Most High God.
Amen.
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"I will tell of the kindnesses of the LORD, the deeds for which He is to be praised, according to all the LORD has done for me..."
-Isaiah 63:7
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12th August 2009, 01:50 AM
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Reps: 5,138,180,531,435,921,408 (power: 5,138,180,531,435,941) | | Hi... just letting you know that my hubby signed a 6 month lease on an aparment.. or we call them a flat today.. paid all the monies etc.. set to move out this weekend.. I got very angry at him this morning.. upset and everything.. I prayed something would stop him but it has not happened yet.. I apologized and we have a sort of peace again now.. sigh.. Been out together all day..
I am just going to leave this in GODS hands and speak life and blessings over him as I always have.. love him and stand by him as best as I can.. We were even out buying things for him today.. It is weeird.. but I have peace.. He is struggling inside.. and it hurts to see him.. But maybe this will help him... I know GOD is with me..
BUT in all this.. our family today found out.. children and I.. that this Friday we are owed a big pay out via our government.. this has nothing to do with current circumstances either.. This will help amazingly.. Praise GOD..
Thank you to any one who prays.. and has words of wisdom..
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