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17th July 2009, 12:00 PM
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Reps: 497,283,109,336,874,176 (power: 497,283,109,336,887) | | Originally Posted by SilverFire 
Finally, it scarcely needs to be said that for the Christian minorities in the West Bank, Gaza, and elsewhere, that they do infinitely better under the Israeli "occupation" than they do under the terror regimes run by Hamas, Fatah, and the PA.
Our brothers and sisters would have infinitely more safety, economic opportunity, freedom to worship, and political freedom under Israeli "occupation" than they would under any other prevalent Islamic governmental structure (which range from despotism to autocracy with a smile). Therefore, it would be most logical for us to pray for expansion of Israel, no?
No, they don't. You obviously don't know any Christian who lives there. I actually do. Israel is no friend or help to them, I guarantee you that. They have very few freedoms. It is logical to pray for our brothers and sisters in Christ, yet you're not willing to doing that, apparently. The only logical prayer one should have for the secular state of Israel is for them to come to Christ. You didn't even read the National Geographic article did you? It's obvious.
Lord, have mercy! 
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11th September 2009, 01:38 AM
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Reps: 2,952,027,588,772 (power: 2,952,027,598) | | Originally Posted by SilverFire Therefore, it would be most logical for us to pray for expansion of Israel, no?
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22nd September 2009, 06:25 PM
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Holy Archangel Michael, pray to God for me.
"Why do you increase your bonds? Take hold of your life before your light grows dark and you seek help and do not find it. This life has been given to you for repentance; do not waste it in vain pursuits."~St. Isaac the Syrian
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30th October 2009, 10:26 AM
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Reps: 175,140,093,043,491 (power: 0) | | | For some reason American protestants love atheist isrealis more than they love Arab Christians and cheer in the streets when Israeli warplanes bomb Churches and Christians in Palestine, Lebanon, Egypt and Syria.
I guess to them any brown skined person might as well be a muslim terrorist. |
12th November 2009, 02:47 PM
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Reps: 101,793,355,405,790,880 (power: 101,793,355,405,798) | | | The situatuation is complicated and it seems unsolvable. Though I am a critic of Israel, I am no less critical of their enemies and some of the enemies of Israel will never settle for peace. Israel, like any nation, will try to preserve its people and will also cause innocent people to suffer in doing so as innocent Israelis are often victims of the terrorism of their adversaries. |
14th November 2009, 01:25 PM
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Reps: 114,793,902,644 (power: 114,793,905) | | | What should Israel do? It is simply a western country defending itself. The problem is Hamas. In Israel there is obviously no persecution. Neither muslims nor christians are persecuted since the modern state of Israel is like all the western countries...(moral decline inclusive...)
However...the Hamas oppresses, persecutes, kills christians...independent from the conflict with Israel. |
14th November 2009, 01:31 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,820) | | Originally Posted by SilverFire The first thing we can do is to discard the whole Muslim propaganda of Israeli "occupiers" and Muslim "extremists". No, those who live out the commands of the Koran are no more extreme than you or I living out the commands of Christ. They are simply Muslims and we are simply Christians. And if there's one thing that's completely pointless, it's preferring the terror-anarchy of terrorist rule (PA, Hamas, Fatah) over the "occupation" of Israel. It is worth noting that the "occupation" of Israel produced jobs, irrigated the desert, and brought a stability that the people there had scarcely known. Now, all that is gone, thanks to the Muslim claims of "occupation", and made-up lies about Israeli atrocities.
Finally, it scarcely needs to be said that for the Christian minorities in the West Bank, Gaza, and elsewhere, that they do infinitely better under the Israeli "occupation" than they do under the terror regimes run by Hamas, Fatah, and the PA.
Our brothers and sisters would have infinitely more safety, economic opportunity, freedom to worship, and political freedom under Israeli "occupation" than they would under any other prevalent Islamic governmental structure (which range from despotism to autocracy with a smile). Therefore, it would be most logical for us to pray for expansion of Israel, no?
Amen
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14th November 2009, 01:39 PM
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Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas blamed Israel for the emigration of Palestinian Christians, but researchers say the reasons for the declining numbers of Christians in the place of Jesus’ birth are considerably more complex.
Religious intolerance, expanding Islamic radicalism and P.A. harassment are cited as “push” factors, along with economic hardship and unemployment attributed in part to security closures that affect the important tourism industry. “Pull” factors include the existence of flourishing communities in the diaspora, easing assimilation.
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14th November 2009, 09:50 PM
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Reps: 497,283,109,336,874,176 (power: 497,283,109,336,887) | | | You folks are missing the whole point and that's prayer. Obviously, when it comes to certain groups of people, people around here will make excuses not to pray for them? That's sure what it seems like. Take the political garbage elsewhere. Don't come to a thread on a board regarding Christian persecution and try to start an argument. Pray!
After all, if it were you in their shoes, you'd want people to pray for you!
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Commanders of the heavenly hosts, we who are unworthy beseech you, by your prayers encompass us beneath the wings of your immaterial glory, and faithfully preserve us who fall down and cry to you: “Deliver us from all harm, for you are the commanders of the powers on high!”
Holy Archangel Michael, pray to God for me.
"Why do you increase your bonds? Take hold of your life before your light grows dark and you seek help and do not find it. This life has been given to you for repentance; do not waste it in vain pursuits."~St. Isaac the Syrian
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28th December 2009, 11:40 AM
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