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Since even evolutionists admit that they don't know who the common ancestor (s) is or are, then the common ancestor is as imaginary as each individual is capable of conjuring up. And since imaginary animals can't breed anything in reality, since they're figments of the human imagination, then it's been proven that humans couldn't have come from them. 
Oh, I know that people hang on to myths long after they've been exposed as myths, but evolution has been disproven because it doesn't happen in the real world, nor has anyone in history passed along accounts of these imaginary animals that supposedly lived for millions of years which is much longer than "modern-day" humans have lived, and nothing about it is logical. So it can't be verified either biologically, historically, or logically. Thus it's been disproven all the way around. So my work is done here. 
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Reps: 391,657,471,571,023,040 (power: 391,657,471,571,037) | | Originally Posted by peace4ever Since even evolutionists admit that they don't know who the common ancestor (s) is or are, then the common ancestor is as imaginary as each individual is capable of conjuring up. And since imaginary animals can't breed anything in reality, since they're figments of the human imagination, then it's been proven that humans couldn't have come from them.
Oh, I know that people hang on to myths long after they've been exposed as myths, but evolution has been disproven because it doesn't happen in the real world, nor has anyone in history passed along accounts of these imaginary animals that supposedly lived for millions of years which is much longer than "modern-day" humans have lived, and nothing about it is logical. So it can't be verified either biologically, historically, or logically. Thus it's been disproven all the way around. So my work is done here.
Say I go to a playground. There are five kids playing at the playground. In the sandbox of the playground is a freshly made sandcastle. I can't know which of the kids made the sandcastle, but it's extremely likely that one of those five kids did it. Does that make those kids imaginary since I don't know which one made the sandcastle? Even if it wasn't one of those kids, does that make them imaginary? The kids have been playing there for hours, but the sandcastle is clearly freshly made.
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Most known animal phyla appeared in the fossil record as marine species during the Cambrian explosion, about 542 million years ago.
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24th June 2009, 07:02 PM
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Reps: 235,888 (power: 238) | | Originally Posted by peace4ever Since even evolutionists admit that they don't know who the common ancestor (s) is or are, then the common ancestor is as imaginary as each individual is capable of conjuring up. And since imaginary animals can't breed anything in reality, since they're figments of the human imagination, then it's been proven that humans couldn't have come from them. Oh, I know that people hang on to myths long after they've been exposed as myths, but evolution has been disproven because it doesn't happen in the real world, nor has anyone in history passed along accounts of these imaginary animals that supposedly lived for millions of years which is much longer than "modern-day" humans have lived, and nothing about it is logical. So it can't be verified either biologically, historically, or logically. Thus it's been disproven all the way around. So my work is done here.
Comedy gold. I got such a laugh from the irony of the line I've highlighted in red. 
Considering you guys believe in unicorns and talking snakes, then I certainly think you have an advantage over scientists when it comes to imaginary animals.
Education is your friend. Get some. People who reside in reality, or even in its suburbs know that you can infer events from evidence. All the evidence we have points to evolution by natural selection and common ancestry (see the thread on human chromosome 2 in the YEC forum). I never knew my great great great grandfather, never saw him, don't even know who he was. I guess this proves (lol) he doesn't exist by your tortured logic.
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Reps: 50,921,867,004,076,224 (power: 50,921,867,004,079) | | Originally Posted by Embalmer Comedy gold. I got such a laugh from the irony of the line I've highlighted in red.
Considering you guys believe in unicorns and talking snakes, then I certainly think you have an advantage over scientists when it comes to imaginary animals.
Education is your friend. Get some. People who reside in reality, or even in its suburbs know that you can infer events from evidence. All the evidence we have points to evolution by natural selection and common ancestry (see the thread on human chromosome 2 in the YEC forum). I never knew my great great great grandfather, never saw him, don't even know who he was. I guess this proves (lol) he doesn't exist by your tortured logic.
Education? I think most in here are educated enough to understand that 1. Carbon Dating is unreliable
2. There are so many gaps in darwins theory that are filled with opinions, guestimates and assumptions that even darwin doubted some of his own work (challenge me on this please)
3. Something cannot be created by nothing and when this does actually happen, please show me
4. Show me one creature that has given birth to a new species? You can breed different dogs and each litter will be different from the rest, but they are still dogs
5. DNA and the complexity of a single cell is proof enough that we are by design, not accident
6. If the first humans appeared 500,000 years ago from a common ape like ancestor, why haven't other ape's, chimps, monkeys etc evolved even in the slightest in that same period of time (let me guess, evolution takes BILLIONS of years, oh right i forgot)
7. If natural selection and the survival of the fittest theories are to be taken as accurate, answer me this, the animal that came to be a bird, did it's wings form in one go and did it fly immediatelty, or was it gradual? |
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2. There are so many gaps in darwins theory that are filled with opinions, guestimates and assumptions that even darwin doubted some of his own work (challenge me on this please)
3. Something cannot be created by nothing and when this does actually happen, please show me
4. Show me one creature that has given birth to a new species? You can breed different dogs and each litter will be different from the rest, but they are still dogs
5. DNA and the complexity of a single cell is proof enough that we are by design, not accident
6. If the first humans appeared 500,000 years ago from a common ape like ancestor, why haven't other ape's, chimps, monkeys etc evolved even in the slightest in that same period of time (let me guess, evolution takes BILLIONS of years, oh right i forgot)
7. If natural selection and the survival of the fittest theories are to be taken as accurate, answer me this, the animal that came to be a bird, did it's wings form in one go and did it fly immediatelty, or was it gradual?
1. That's why there's other elements to date things with! Huzzah!
2. Is that so?
3. Do you understand abiogenesis?
4. Do you understand speciation and how it applies to "macro" evolution?
5. Is that so?
6. They all split off from the same common ancestral line at one point or another. Everything is always evolving, though humans have done a fairly good job at stopping natural selection with technology.
7. It was gradual.
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by Skaloop Say I go to a playground. There are five kids playing at the playground. In the sandbox of the playground is a freshly made sandcastle. I can't know which of the kids made the sandcastle, but it's extremely likely that one of those five kids did it. Does that make those kids imaginary since I don't know which one made the sandcastle? Even if it wasn't one of those kids, does that make them imaginary? The kids have been playing there for hours, but the sandcastle is clearly freshly made.
The highlighted text is the imaginary part.
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