Does God actually find homosexual relations "abominable"?

Hi, before people give me passages from the Romans, Corrinthians, Leviticus, Exodus or anywhere else, I want to point out that one issue with the word "abomination" appearing in our English-translated bibles.

The Hebrew word for "abomination" and "unclean" both come from the same Hebrew word, To'ebah. Likewise, the same word from which "homosexual offender" was translated from in 1 Cor. 6:9 appears again in 1 Timothy as "pervert".

Considering that it's possible that modern Christians take the words used out of context, due to mistranslation, how do you think God might view homosexuality today? Do you think God views homosexuality the same as eating with "unclean" hands or eating non-Kosher food?

Note: before responding, PLEASE read what I wrote about the translations. Don't just launch into reciting Scripture without at least considering my argument first. God blessed you with a mind and gave you the ability read and think for yourself. If I'm wrong, prove me wrong, if you can't then maybe consider my argument which is Romans 14:12,13
"So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way."

Timlamb's post is very good and gives one a lot to think on as well as peace4ever's. I really don't want to sound as if I'm justifying sin at all, and it's so difficult to have this discussion and not.

But, I try to imagine what my whole Christian life would have been like if somehow the way I loved someone was on the line. What if it was me that was facing an entire life of being single, no love, no hugs or intimacy, no family, nothing--just because the person I was most attracted to was my own sex.

I've been very blessed to have been born heterosexual, but I have met others who sincerely seem to be just like me, only they are wired differently. My heart goes out to them, because what seems most natural to them is considered a mortal sin, even if they find a way to live monogamously all their lives. I find this so sad.

You have to first understand what God does for the repentant sinner. His love is so satisfying and lasting that it far surpasses the fleeting pleasure of any desire of the flesh.

That's how Jesus takes sins away. Once he cleans the inside of the cup, then it's as much work for the outside of the cup to be cleaned as thanking someone for rescuing you from a burning fire. "For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks."

So I guess you will be taking a perpetual vow of chastity?

If not, take a leaf from Paul, and judge mercifully those coping with desire, as he did. (See I Cor. 6) I think Rahmiyn's post is pretty on target -- there are to be sure ex-gays, some of whom are in denial and some of whom I believe to be truthful, but there are people who have tried as hard, prayed as hard, and remain gay in orientation. What is God's message to them?

So I guess you will be taking a perpetual vow of chastity?

If not, take a leaf from Paul, and judge mercifully those coping with desire, as he did. (See I Cor. 6) I think Rahmiyn's post is pretty on target -- there are to be sure ex-gays, some of whom are in denial and some of whom I believe to be truthful, but there are people who have tried as hard, prayed as hard, and remain gay in orientation. What is God's message to them?

I think most of us do "judge mecifully" and we are aware of the magnitude of what gays must give up to be holy. But just like my desire for drugs and alcohol their desire is fleshly and incompatible with a relationship with the Lord. Some people think that only the weak get married at all, paul taught that. We share their burdons and want to encourage and support, but they need to be in repentance to be in good relationship with God.

So I guess you will be taking a perpetual vow of chastity?

If not, take a leaf from Paul, and judge mercifully those coping with desire, as he did. (See I Cor. 6) I think Rahmiyn's post is pretty on target -- there are to be sure ex-gays, some of whom are in denial and some of whom I believe to be truthful, but there are people who have tried as hard, prayed as hard, and remain gay in orientation. What is God's message to them?

But, I try to imagine what my whole Christian life would have been like if somehow the way I loved someone was on the line. What if it was me that was facing an entire life of being single, no love, no hugs or intimacy, no family, nothing--just because the person I was most attracted to was my own sex.

I've been very blessed to have been born heterosexual, but I have met others who sincerely seem to be just like me, only they are wired differently. My heart goes out to them, because what seems most natural to them is considered a mortal sin, even if they find a way to live monogamously all their lives. I find this so sad.

I think most of us do "judge mecifully" and we are aware of the magnitude of what gays must give up to be holy. But just like my desire for drugs and alcohol their desire is fleshly and incompatible with a relationship with the Lord. Some people think that only the weak get married at all, paul taught that. We share their burdons and want to encourage and support, but they need to be in repentance to be in good relationship with God.