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They would go there. They don't go there because no such evidence exists.
So its more likely that aliens seeded the planet? Where did they come from? Aliens that seeded their planet? Where did they come from? Aliens that seeded their planet.


I could do this all day.

Basically as long as there's no God..........Anything goes.
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Originally Posted by OldStyleBlues View Post
The reason that is is that "God" is in the realm of the supernatural which is no concern of science.
How do you know?

QV please --- 1.
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Originally Posted by Honkytnkmn View Post
Basically as long as there's no God..........Anything goes.
Once again "God" is in the realm of the Supernatural which is no concern of science. It's really quite simple.
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Originally Posted by OldStyleBlues View Post
Once again "God" is in the realm of the Supernatural which is no concern of science. It's really quite simple.
Once again --- how do you know?

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Originally Posted by OldStyleBlues View Post
Once again "God" is in the realm of the Supernatural which is no concern of science. It's really quite simple.
So would you say science works towards uncovering the truth of our reality?
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Originally Posted by Honkytnkmn View Post
So its more likely that aliens seeded the planet? Where did they come from? Aliens that seeded their planet? Where did they come from? Aliens that seeded their planet.


I could do this all day.
This is panspermia, which I don't subscribe to and neither does the overwhelming majority of scientists. Furthermore, I don't see the connection to your previous post.

Basically as long as there's no God..........Anything goes.
On the contrary. Among the resident creationists alone, there compete several wildly different origin stories, from garden-variety Intelligent Design to bizarre fringe theology like dad's or AV1611VETs respective delusions of choice. The scientists here, on the other hand, agree with each other on almost anything down to minor details, despite having no supposedly divine scripture to draw their teachings from.
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Originally Posted by MrGoodBytes View Post
The scientists here, on the other hand, agree with each other on almost anything down to minor details, despite having no supposedly divine scripture to draw their teachings from.
Is that why they have peer reviews?

Is that why Pluto was voted on --- (and voted against)?
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Once again --- how do you know?
Because we cant observe the supernatural, so the only way we could reach the supernatural explanation would be to eliminate all natural explanations. But we can never know that we have eliminated all possibilities. Science has to avoid non-natural explanations. This is explanatory naturalism. Any explanation that uses a non-natural explanans (thing doing the explaining) fails to be testable. I could propose that some process is the result of an Invisible Pink Unicorn's powers However you can neither falsify nor verify this. Ontologies outside science are a matter of personal choice. And in matters of taste there is no dispute. In science, there is (legitimate) dispute. Therefore, science is more than a matter of taste.
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Originally Posted by OldStyleBlues View Post
Because we cant observe the supernatural, so the only way we could reach the supernatural explanation would be to eliminate all natural explanations. But we can never know that we have eliminated all possibilities. Science has to avoid non-natural explanations. This is explanatory naturalism. Any explanation that uses a non-natural explanans (thing doing the explaining) fails to be testable. I could propose that some process is the result of an Invisible Pink Unicorn's powers However you can neither falsify nor verify this. Ontologies outside science are a matter of personal choice. And in matters of taste there is no dispute. In science, there is (legitimate) dispute. Therefore, science is more than a matter of taste.
WOW --- PR @ it's best here!

So basically you "eliminate the negative to accentuate the positive" by simply a priori claiming something doesn't exist --- is that correct?
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Originally Posted by Honkytnkmn View Post
So its more likely that aliens seeded the planet? Where did they come from? Aliens that seeded their planet? Where did they come from? Aliens that seeded their planet.


I could do this all day.

Basically as long as there's no God..........Anything goes.
Guess its all how you look at it. Assuming no god, then everything has to follow physical laws. WITH god, you can have hydroplate theory, red sea parting, water canopy, sun stand still, all living animals suddenly going into a predator-prey relationship because someone ate a fruit.

"truth" comes from people saying they were inspired. And none of those truths are too strange to be totally believed. No evidence math or physics needed; just someone to say it.

Science has rational rules to follow, and gets actual results.
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