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What is the origin of man?

Since scientists claim that evolution is a fact, not a fantasy, then please tell us the origin of man (common ancestor). Is it:

1) An ape
2) A monkey
3) A lizard
4) An amoeba
50 Aliens
6) An orangutang
7) A made-up animal
8) A cell
9) unknown

I guess it depends on each individual imagination. Since Darwin didn't know his main characters (namely, the common ancestors) then he certainly can't know what kind of descendants they were capable of breeding and neither can anyone else. So the story of evolution is as imaginary as "Lord Of The Rings." At least Tolken knew that the characters he conjured up in his imagination were fictional. But Darwin believed that the characters he can't even describe because he doesn't know them, were real. There can hardly be anything more delusional.
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Old 3rd June 2009, 12:10 PM
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Unicorns, obviously.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Lite View Post
Unicorns, obviously.
Since scientists don't know the origin of man, then your guess is as good as anybody's.
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Originally Posted by peace4ever View Post
Since scientists don't know the origin of man, then your guess is as good as anybody's.
Or maybe it was DRAGONS!
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There is no one common ancestor. Humans have many common ancestors with successive animal outgroups. If it's a particular common ancestor you're looking for, you need to state which animal outgroup you want to compare to. For example, we share a common amniote ancestor with lizards, which for all intents and purposes probably looked something like Casineria or a cotylosaur.
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Originally Posted by Mallon View Post
There is no one common ancestor. Humans have many common ancestors with successive animal outgroups. If it's a particular common ancestor you're looking for, you need to state which animal outgroup you want to compare to. For example, we share a common amniote ancestor with lizards, which for all intents and purposes probably looked something like Casineria or a cotylosaur.
How do you know unless you know who they are? Or are you just imagining what they'd have to be if your story is true? Again, that's no different than saying; "if humans came from dogs, then many half-dogs half-humans would have had to have produced them." And again, the conclusion can only be as imaginary as the premise.
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My thoughts exactly.
I just bought Noll's Scandal of the Evangelical Mind recently, but I'm waiting until after my PhD candidacy exam to read it. Looking forward to what kind of insight he has to offer.
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My thoughts exactly.
I just bought Noll's Scandal of the Evangelical Mind recently, but I'm waiting until after my PhD candidacy exam to read it. Looking forward to what kind of insight he has to offer.
You can be sure of one thing; his words will be fallible because he is not God.
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You can be sure of one thing; his words will be fallible because he is not God.
Neither are you.
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