Origins TheologyForum for the discussion of Creation Science (Young/Old) vs Theistic Evolution. Discussion of Atheistic Evolution should be taken to the Discussion and Debate forums.
The answer is very simple; because God created animals each to their own kind. And all animals only reproduce themselves which is why the term is "reproduction", not producing other animals. That's exactly how the world works. So reality confirms the bible and it does not confirm evolution.
You didn't answer my question. What process accounts for the nested hierarchical pattern of life? "God did it" is not an explanation. If I asked you why the sky was blue and you answered "because God made it that way", you haven't really answered my question.
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You didn't answer my question. What process accounts for the nested hierarchical pattern of life? "God did it" is not an explanation. If I asked you why the sky was blue and you answered "because God made it that way", you haven't really answered my question.
The process is called reproduction. Each animal reproduces itself,that's why it's called RE-production. It's as simple as observing what cows, horses, humans, apes, giraffes, elephants, lions, tigers, bears, zebras, etc breed. They each re-produce themselves. Thus one CANNOT breed the other. One thus cannot be the descendants of the other. that's as imaginary as claiming that humans came from aliens. Thus, evolution is a bold-faced lie.
The process is called reproduction. Each animal reproduces itself,that's why it's called RE-production. It's as simple as observing what cows, horses, humans, apes, giraffes, elephants, lions, tigers, bears, zebras, etc breed. They each re-produce themselves. Thus one CANNOT breed the other. One thus cannot be the descendants of the other. that's as imaginary as claiming that humans came from aliens. Thus, evolution is a bold-faced lie.
Have you ever been in a conversation with a nonbeliever who started to tell you everything that was wrong with the bible, quoting verses they'd seen on some website, and forcing the conclusion that it cannot be true? They take verses out of context, disregard culture and use questionable or outright wrong interpretations. It is obvious that, despite being able to quote a few scriptures verbatim, that they really have very little understanding of scripture at all.
I say this in the kindest way possible: this is exactly what you sound like right now. It is called a "strawman" argument - you build up a straw man, or caricature, of what you want to criticize, apply simplistic and easy-to-argue attributes to it, and wail away. The caricature is not the thing. I suggest you either do some more study of the topic (Mark Kennedy would be a great resource for you) or avoid the topic altogether.
Have you ever been in a conversation with a nonbeliever who started to tell you everything that was wrong with the bible, quoting verses they'd seen on some website, and forcing the conclusion that it cannot be true? They take verses out of context, disregard culture and use questionable or outright wrong interpretations. It is obvious that, despite being able to quote a few scriptures verbatim, that they really have very little understanding of scripture at all.
I say this in the kindest way possible: this is exactly what you sound like right now. It is called a "strawman" argument - you build up a straw man, or caricature, of what you want to criticize, apply simplistic and easy-to-argue attributes to it, and wail away. The caricature is not the thing. I suggest you either do some more study of the topic (Mark Kennedy would be a great resource for you) or avoid the topic altogether.
The difference is that reality confirms the bible and/or the events in the bible have been witnessed. So you have no case when you make up stories that don't happen in reality and that no one in history has either witnessed, nor passed along accounts of your story. That again, is the definition of a fairy tale.
The process is called reproduction. Each animal reproduces itself,that's why it's called RE-production. It's as simple as observing what cows, horses, humans, apes, giraffes, elephants, lions, tigers, bears, zebras, etc breed. They each re-produce themselves. Thus one CANNOT breed the other. One thus cannot be the descendants of the other. that's as imaginary as claiming that humans came from aliens. Thus, evolution is a bold-faced lie.
What happens when species mutate so far apart they can longer interbreed? Oh and yes, it does happen today and has been observed. Creationists do accept "adaptation."
Oh, and you also haven't defined what a "kind" is. To me, there seems to be an awful lot of mixture and changes between these "kinds."
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What happens when species mutate so far apart they can longer interbreed? Oh and yes, it does happen today and has been observed. Creationists do accept "adaptation."
Oh, and you also haven't defined what a "kind" is. To me, there seems to be an awful lot of mixture and changes between these "kinds."
You can't say that unless you know for a fact they used to be the same species. So for example, looking at a giraffe and claiming it used to be an elephant is not only a fantasy, it's a ludicrous fantasy because no one has ever observed a giraffe turning into an elephant or breeding descendants who are elephants in reality. So once again, the imagination is considered evidence in science.
The process is called reproduction. Each animal reproduces itself,that's why it's called RE-production. It's as simple as observing what cows, horses, humans, apes, giraffes, elephants, lions, tigers, bears, zebras, etc breed. They each re-produce themselves. Thus one CANNOT breed the other. One thus cannot be the descendants of the other. that's as imaginary as claiming that humans came from aliens. Thus, evolution is a bold-faced lie.
Animal's aren't perfect reproducers, though. No offspring looks exactly as its parent. And given enough time and enough accumulation of mutations, a population of one species can become reproductively isolated and produce an entirely new species. We see this happen even today. Heck, even the creation museum in Kentucky teaches this, otherwise they can't fit all the world's species on the ark:
__________________ We can allow satellites, planets, suns, universe, nay whole systems of universes, to be governed by laws, but the smallest insect, we wish to be created at once by special act.
Animal's aren't perfect reproducers, though. No offspring looks exactly as its parent.
Traits vary within each species. But cows don't turn into goats or breed descendants who are goats, turkeys don't turn into elephants, and no animal tunrs into a human or breeds human descendants whether over 9 moths or a gazillion years! That does not happen in reality because one animal does not carry the genes of another animal. A couple has to be able to breed together and exchange genes before he can pass any mutations on to his descendants. Thinking that "maybe they could" is called science fiction, not science.
So you really need to learn the difference between science and science fiction. But you, like the rest of us, have been so brainwashed since we were children that what happens in the imagination actually happens in reality, that the "what if humans came from monkeys or fictitious animals" has turned into monkeys did breed human descendants in reality!
But again, since scientists don't even know what turned into what, then they don't know the origin of man and their story is as made up as any science fiction book or movie. And it's not even good science fiction since Darwin doesn't even know his main characters so he can't possibly know what kind of descendants they were capable or producing. A very bad science fiction story cannot make a good true story.
That's right. And some of that variation is selected against by the environment to produce populations that become canalized and reproductively isolated to produce new species. This is basic high-school evolutionary ecology.
But cows don't turn into goats or breed descendants who are goats, turkeys don't turn into elephants, and no animal tunrs into a human or breeds human descendants whether over 9 moths or a gazillion years!
NO ONE IS SAYING THEY DO! Again, this is you misconstruing what evolutionary scientists say. Why do you have to so dishonest and make up lies like that?
So you really need to learn the difference between science and science fiction.
I am a published scientist.
But again, since scientists don't even know what turned into what, then they don't know the origin of man and their story is as made up as any science fiction book or movie. And it's not even good science fiction since Darwin doesn't even know his main characters so he can't possibly know what kind of descendants they were capable or producing. A very bad science fiction story cannot make a good true story.
Believe what you will. I'm done talking to the wall.
__________________ We can allow satellites, planets, suns, universe, nay whole systems of universes, to be governed by laws, but the smallest insect, we wish to be created at once by special act.
That's right. And some of that variation is selected against by the environment to produce populations that become canalized and reproductively isolated to produce new species. This is basic high-school evolutionary ecology.
Not only can you not know that unless you actually see one species turn into or breed another, your statement is impossible because one animal does not carry the genes of another animal. And that is precisely why; Bears breed bears, apes breed apes, giraffes breed giraffes, elephants breed elephants humans breed humans in reality.
So imagining that one animal can breed the descendants of another animal is again, called science fiction, not science. So again, you can be rest assured that your descendants will be human, not be another mutant animal.