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3rd June 2009, 03:08 AM
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Reps: 18,889,155,825,852,136 (power: 18,889,155,825,864) | | Originally Posted by peace4ever No you didn't answer it. Why do humans not breed animals as descendants? Once you know that, you'll know why animals can't breed human descendants either. It's very simple. 
Humans are animals. As you just admitted here, we share every basic biological function with them. Biologically, we are animals. Therefore, every descendant we beget will be an animal, too. We will not, however, ever give rise to already-existing species like frogs, turtles, cats, etc. That is not how evolution works. These animals have separate evolutionary histories all of their own.
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Reps: 162,057,471,836 (power: 162,057,477) | | Originally Posted by Mallon Humans are animals. As you just admitted we share every basic biological function with them. Biologically, we are animals. Therefore, every descendant we beget will be an animal, too. We will not, however, ever give rise to already-existing species like frogs, turtles, cats, etc. That is not how evolution works. These animals have separate evolutionary histories all of their own.
Wrong again. Scientists can easily distinguish human from animal DNA, proving that humans are not animals. We don't share their DNA, we have similar DNA because we like the animals have to eat, breathe, eat food, drink, reproduce and protect ourselves. But by your "reasoning" dogs are lions because their DNA is similar. So if we actually shared DNA with animals, then we humans would occasionally be breeding other animals.  Also, since bestiality describes humans sex with animals, then by your "reasoning" sex between humans is considered bestiality.  So confusing animals and humans leads you to believe that one can breed the other. No wonder evolutionists are so confused!
So sorry friend, but all children can differentiate between animals and humans on sight, unlike evolutionists.  I have to get to bed now. | 
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Reps: 18,889,155,825,852,136 (power: 18,889,155,825,864) | | Originally Posted by peace4ever Wrong again. Scientists can easily distinguish human from animal DNA, proving that humans are not animals.
That's silly. Think about what you're saying. Scientists can also distinguish rabbit DNA from that of other animals. Does that mean that rabbits aren't animals, either? But by your "reasoning" dogs are lions because their DNA is similar.
Sigh... Sometimes I wonder if you are even listening to what I am saying.
I am not saying that because two species share segments of DNA in common, they must be the same species (after all, if they were the same species, their DNA would be exactly the same). I am saying that similarities in DNA sequences are explained by the common ancestry of those two species. Your DNA is so similar to that of your siblings because you share the same parents. The same principle applies to evolution.  Also, since bestiality describes humans sex with animals, then by your "reasoning" sex between humans is considered bestiality.  So confusing animals and humans leads you to believe that one can breed the other. No wonder evolutionists are so confused!
Your arguments are really getting desperate. So sorry friend, but all children can differentiate between animals and humans on sight, unlike evolutionists.  I have to get to bed now.
Perhaps you could try telling me which of the skulls below are human and which aren't (and the characteristics you are using to distinguish them): 
Even creationists disagree about how to divide the skulls among humans and apes.
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Reps: 12,567,898,174,147,644 (power: 12,567,898,174,166) | | Originally Posted by peace4ever Oh really? Then please describe the common ancestor (s), how many there were, what they looked like, where they lived, when they lived, etc. Then I'll ask people on other forums to describe the common ancestors and see if your stories agree. then we'll see if you are using facts or your imagination for your claims. 
Look for a book called The Ancestor's Tale by Richard Dawkins. It's all set out there, including the factual evidence of the human phylogeny.
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Reps: 162,057,471,836 (power: 162,057,477) | | Originally Posted by gluadys Look for a book called The Ancestor's Tale by Richard Dawkins. It's all set out there, including the factual evidence of the human phylogeny.
Sorry, but if evolution were a fact, you would easily and eagerly answer my questions. But you can't because the common ancestor(s) is or are as imaginary as each individual imagination. That means that no one knows the origin of man and Darwin's book "The Origin Of The Species" is a lie. | 
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Wrong. Leopards and tigers have similar characteristics and by the reasoning of evolutionary scientists that means that one can breed the other.
God created many animals, some who like like others and others who don't. But as reality confirms, he created each animal to breed its own kind.
But in order to deny God, Darwin and his followers have to confuse animals with people and the boundaries between each animal! So they don't know which animal can breed what! So Darwin has created a web of lies so big that scientists are even more confused about what an animal and what a human is than ever before in history. This is Satan at his best. He can entice people who claim to be so intelligent and educated to be one of the most confused groups of people on the planet.
But God said he would frustrate the intelligence of the intelligent and make the "wise" look foolish. And that He has. | 
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Reps: 50,526,895,060,156,744 (power: 50,526,895,060,161) | | | Peace4ever - I don't mean to appear rude but you seem to have started this thread simply to laugh at evolutionists. Creationists and supporters of Intelligent Design are often laughed at themselves by people more interested in belittling them rather than talking. Please don't copy them.
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Reps: 162,057,471,836 (power: 162,057,477) | | Originally Posted by Notedstrangeperson Peace4ever - I don't mean to appear rude but you seem to have strated this thread simply to laugh at evolutionists. Creationists and supporters of Intelligent Design are often laughed at themselves by people more interested in belittling them rather than talking. Please don't copy them.
Well, I certainly can't take them seriously!  So I can either feel compassion for them like I do with high school students who don't understand arithmetic, or show them how absurd their claims are and that, either scientists really don't understand the basic birds and bees or they're outright deceiving people. It's one or the other. So which do you want me to do? Talk to them like children or laugh at their absurd claims? So if they wan to be treated like adults, then they need to stop making up stories like children do, especially impossible stories, about the skulls and bones they find, and dressing them up in whatever clothes suit their fancy.
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