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Most of those skulls are skull fragments, not full skulls. In fact, there's no way to know if the skulls and bones they find all came from the same animal without the DNA of the original animal or human to prove it. So piecing skulls and bones together is called artwork, not science.

There's also no way to know what kind of hair their fictitious beasts had without the hair fibers to prove it. Or what color eye and hair color or what those creatures wore. Nevertheless, scientists dress their skeletons in Tarzan outfits, give them clubs, put black hair all over their bodies and bingo! They've duped the public into believing their characters are real. But as Hitler once said; "People are so stupid. it's not hard to fool the public." And no one knew better than he did how true that is.
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Originally Posted by peace4ever View Post
Most of those skulls are skull fragments, not full skulls.
Actually, most of them are near-complete. You can pretty clearly see what has been restored in the pictures.

There's also no way to know what kind of hair their fictitious beasts had without the hair fibers to prove it.
Scientists don't infer human-ape common ancestry on the basis of hair alone. Our entire phenotype and genotype attests to common ancestry:
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Originally Posted by peace4ever View Post
Most of those skulls are skull fragments, not full skulls. In fact, there's no way to know if the skulls and bones they find all came from the same animal without the DNA of the original animal or human to prove it. So piecing skulls and bones together is called artwork, not science.
How about:
1. Fossilized cells.
2. Dating tests to see if the fossils come from the same time periods.
3. Testing of the fossils to see if they are of the same materials.
4. Comparing geographical locations of the fossils. Closer together = more likely they are of the same population.

And those were just off the top of my head.
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[quote=Mallon;51875898]Actually, most of them are near-complete. You can pretty clearly see what has been restored in the pictures.


Scientists don't infer human-ape common ancestry on the basis of hair alone. Our entire phenotype and genotype attests to common ancestry:


Wrong again. I have a question for you: Do you know why humans can't produce descendants that are; goats, frogs, monkeys, orangutangs, turtles, lions, tigers, or bears? or not?

If you do, then it's only a matter of the simple birds and bees to know why animals can't produce human descendants either; animals and humans don't carry each other's DNA. So one cannot breed the other. Only in the imaginations of men can that happen, not in reality. It's that simple.
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Originally Posted by peace4ever View Post
Wrong again. I have a question for you: Do you know why humans can't produce descendants that are; goats, frogs, monkeys, orangutangs, turtles, lions, tigers, or bears? or not?
Yes, because evolution does not work that way. Evolution does not produce one pre-existing species from another, as you evidently think. Evolution is contingent on history. Tadpoles don't give birth to humans, and evolutionary theory doesn't claim they ever did. The scenario you are proposing is NOT evolution. You are creating strawmen.
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Originally Posted by Mallon View Post
Yes, because evolution does not work that way. Evolution does not produce one pre-existing species from another, as you evidently think. Evolution is contingent on history. Tadpoles don't give birth to humans, and evolutionary theory doesn't claim they ever did. The scenario you are proposing is NOT evolution. You are creating strawmen.
You're right. Tadpoles, monkeys apes, lizards, don't give birth to human descendants whether over a gazillion years or 9 months! Descendants are not just first generation offspring, they're offspring thousands of generations later as well. So evolution is impossible because humans don't carry animal DNA and animals don't carry human DNA. So one cannot breed the other as descendants...ever. It's the simple birds and bees.
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You're right. Tadpoles, monkeys apes, lizards, don't give birth to human descendants whether over a gazillion years or 9 months! Descendants are not just first generation offspring, they're offspring thousands of generations later as well. So evolution is impossible because humans don't carry animal DNA and animals don't carry human DNA. So one cannot breed the other as descendants...ever. It's the simple birds and bees.

If animal's carried human DNA, they'd be human.
You truly have no idea what you're talking about.
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If animal's carried human DNA, they'd be human.
You truly have no idea what you're talking about.
Do you know why humans don't breed; giraffes, monkeys, lions, tigers, bears or anything other than humans? or not? it's a very simple answer if you know it. Do you?
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Do you know why humans don't breed; giraffes, monkeys, lions, tigers, bears or anything other than humans? or not? it's a very simple answer if you know it. Do you?
I just answered this two posts ago.
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I just answered this two posts ago.
No you didn't answer it. Why do humans not breed animals as descendants? Once you know that, you'll know why animals can't breed human descendants either. It's very simple.
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