Women responsible for sodomy?

dad · #21 1st June 2009, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by synger

You are correct, ronniechoate34. But in context of the OP, I think he was speaking specifically of male homosexual sodomy. Thus that is what I've been focusing on in my discussion with him.

Since female homosexuality causes the disease, it is equally to blame! Of course. Remember, that the lineages and etc were generally from the men in the Old Testament, women just never got a mention sometimes! The sin of Sodom was a female sin every bit, at least, and maybe more.

chaela · #22 1st June 2009, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by dad

I always thought men were to blame for that sin, I now feel women are certainly also to blame! They get real selfish in an advanced sin state, and deny men. They look to themselves, and other things, and are the main cause of men having not much else to look toward but other men! I could be wrong, but that is my opinion this week. I think there is something to it. Thoughts?

That all depends on how much value the man is placing upon that
which he expects women -- or other men -- to provide them,
doesn't it?

I'm sure you would agree that we are responsible for our own
actions, and cannot blame the other guy for what we decide to
do.

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dad · #23 1st June 2009, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by chaela

That all depends on how much value the man is placing upon that which he expects women -- or other men -- to provide them, doesn't it?

Doesn't matter, any more than the value you place on drinking water. Too men is the desire, and need. It is not an extra. Women should realize that, and act accordingly. One cannot expect to cover a boiling pot, and not have the steam get out one way or another. That is foolish, and hypocritical. God allowed for our needs, and even supplies them.

I'm sure you would agree that we are responsible for our own
actions, and cannot blame the other guy for what we decide to
do.

We are ALSO responsible for our actions and their effect on others! If I rob your food, I would be also responsible if you prostituted yourself to get some, or stole, or etc. If women are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem!

chaela · #24 1st June 2009, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by dad

[/color]Doesn't matter, any more than the value you place on drinking water. Too men is the desire, and need. It is not an extra.

People have died from such things as a lack of food/water. Do you
have evidence that a person has died from a lack of sex?

One cannot expect to cover a boiling pot, and not have the steam get out one way or another.

Very true. But one can turn off the stove.

God allowed for our needs, and even supplies them.

He supplies for our needs, yes. And He also gives us
wisdom to discern the difference between a "need" and a "want".

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northernyogi · #25 1st June 2009, 08:07 PM

I can't even believe that someone would put forth the idea that a man would turn homosexual because his wife is withholding sex. I served in the military for 13 years 2 of which I was married. I went on several 6 month deployments without my wife and not once did I get tempted to have sex wih another male. That is totally out in left field and if your having those kinds of thoughts, I'm thinking that you have bigger issues than a lack of intimcy with your wife.

ERice2nd · #26 1st June 2009, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by dad

[/color]Doesn't matter, any more than the value you place on drinking water. Too men is the desire, and need. It is not an extra. Women should realize that, and act accordingly. One cannot expect to cover a boiling pot, and not have the steam get out one way or another. That is foolish, and hypocritical. God allowed for our needs, and even supplies them.

We are ALSO responsible for our actions and their effect on others! If I rob your food, I would be also responsible if you prostituted yourself to get some, or stole, or etc. If women are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem!

Sounds like you just want to blame someone other then yourself, so you can feel justified by it somehow by saying "its not my fault." As was said earlier in this thread, Adam tried the same thing and it did not work.

you cant blame women for a guy's homosexuality, that something totally up to the man, no woman can make a guy homosexual. It doesnt work that way from what I understand.

I have gone years and years without the pleasure of a woman, and never once did I have any desire to try it with a man, the idea repulses me actually.

LJSGM · #27 1st June 2009, 10:43 PM

For sure. In this sexually saturated society, if one is going to commit fornication, why not with another woman? It's much easier to find than a man that is willing to have sodomy with you.

Or are you talking about certain men that are not very desirable to women, having to resort to men because women won't give them the time of day?

LJSGM · #28 1st June 2009, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by dad

My own sin??? Could you elaborate?? No idea what you are talking about. The topic is homosexuality. And why women are at least 100% as responsible as the homos.

If you are at all serious and not actually a troll, you do seem to have a problem with the hatred of women, and that is something very deep rooted in your heart, that no one can fix but God alone.

I would pray to Him for healing (whatever your mother did, ect)

And if you are married, I will pray for that, for your poor wife, because you seem to have a bit of a problem with a spirit of control (where the whole "blame game" and judgement and laws come in).

dad · #29 2nd June 2009, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by chaela

People have died from such things as a lack of food/water. Do you
have evidence that a person has died from a lack of sex?

Do you have evidence that dying from something is what makes it a need? Sex is like love to a man, and part of love. Ever hear of dying of a broken heart?

Very true. But one can turn off the stove.

Not in the case of a man's life, unless you turn the man off in death! The stove is part of our life, and can't be turned off. Any more than the brain can be turned off, or seeing, or eating.

He supplies for our needs, yes. And He also gives us
wisdom to discern the difference between a "need" and a "want".

In the case of many women, apparently they lack that wisdom still. Sex is a need for men. If you do not realize it, that changes nothing, any more than if you never left a room, to see the sun, and thought it wasn't there.

dad · #30 2nd June 2009, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by LJSGM

If you are at all serious and not actually a troll, you do seem to have a problem with the hatred of women, and that is something very deep rooted in your heart, that no one can fix but God alone.

I would pray to Him for healing (whatever your mother did, ect)

And if you are married, I will pray for that, for your poor wife, because you seem to have a bit of a problem with a spirit of control (where the whole "blame game" and judgement and laws come in).

Speaking of not taking the blame, you ought to use a mirror on that one. Realizing that the selfishness of women is a root cause of sodomy, is not hating women. I would think ignoring it, and blaming only men is actually hating men. Work on that. I am so tired or a religious cover for pure selfishness, and worldliness, it isn't funny.