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29th May 2009, 12:12 PM
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Reps: 1,104,791,561,445,527,552 (power: 1,104,791,561,445,558) | | Originally Posted by t1wGl  So you never question God's love and acceptance, even when you sin? Well, when in sin I'm not exactly worried about whether God loves me or not?  Otherwise, yes that's true, I never question God's love for me. If you don't believe me read my signature.
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God didn't send His Son to pay for the forgiveness of your sin, and then decide He is going to require you to make installment payments. He only requires you to believe that the FULL PAYMENT was done, over 2000 yr. ago..........then you'll stop trying to make the installments on something you could never pay for anyway. The Good News is that you are debt free! |
29th May 2009, 12:14 PM
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If you were to take drugs, commit adultery, loose your temper and put someone in the hospital, get drunk from depression and then accidentally kill someone with your car, have an abortion.
Any change?
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29th May 2009, 12:16 PM
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Reps: 1,104,791,561,445,527,552 (power: 1,104,791,561,445,558) | | Originally Posted by t1wGl Let me complicate this for you guys.
If you were to take drugs, commit adultery, loose your temper and put someone in the hospital, get drunk from depression and then accidentally kill someone with your car, have an abortion.
Any change? LOL, Nope, no change, sorry. 
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God didn't send His Son to pay for the forgiveness of your sin, and then decide He is going to require you to make installment payments. He only requires you to believe that the FULL PAYMENT was done, over 2000 yr. ago..........then you'll stop trying to make the installments on something you could never pay for anyway. The Good News is that you are debt free! |
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Reps: 136,831,488,553,016,608 (power: 136,831,488,553,032) | | Originally Posted by nephilimiyr LOL, Nope, no change, sorry.
Why are you sorry?
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Reps: 136,831,488,553,016,608 (power: 136,831,488,553,032) | | Originally Posted by Jimbeaux No. I don’t think those kind of doubts have ever entered my mind. ~Jim I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Jim I assumed you were being sarcastic, was I wrong?
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29th May 2009, 12:21 PM
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Reps: 1,104,791,561,445,527,552 (power: 1,104,791,561,445,558) | | Originally Posted by t1wGl Why are you sorry? You seem to be intent on making me admitt to something. I'm sorry that I am possibly disappointing you.  BTW, that's a beautiful new avatar you have now. Reminds me of my own camping site up here. Is that is Ark?
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God didn't send His Son to pay for the forgiveness of your sin, and then decide He is going to require you to make installment payments. He only requires you to believe that the FULL PAYMENT was done, over 2000 yr. ago..........then you'll stop trying to make the installments on something you could never pay for anyway. The Good News is that you are debt free! |
29th May 2009, 12:22 PM
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Reps: 136,831,488,553,016,608 (power: 136,831,488,553,032) | | Originally Posted by nephilimiyr You seem to be intent on making me admitt to something. I'm sorry that I am possibly disappointing you. BTW, that's a beautiful new avatar you have now. Reminds me of my own camping site up here. Is that is Ark?
My friend I am intent on no such thing. You said you were sorry, I simply wanted to know why you would be sorry for believing you are loved unconditionally. I am thrilled at your answers! I wish everyone felt that way. 
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29th May 2009, 12:25 PM
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Reps: 82,282,709,515,087 (power: 82,282,709,519) | | Originally Posted by t1wGl Could you elaborate on this a little more? Are you saying you are hoping that God will love and accept you as long as you get most of it right or as long as you try?
That's a really good question. On the one hand, I believe my only hope for salvation lies wholly in God's grace (through his Son Jesus). But, I believe this gift of grace is evident not in what we say we believe, but in how we live (a way in which we can only live by God's grace.)
I'm afraid I reveal the age-old dichotomy of faith versus works. I believe we live by faith, but whether we have this faith or not is evidenced by how we live. It's not the other way around, I believe.
I think that's why woven within a message of salvation by grace, we still can't promote the complete lawlessness of Christians as being okay.
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