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22nd May 2009, 09:59 PM
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Reps: 78,665,091,878,813,952 (power: 78,665,091,878,818) | | Originally Posted by t1wGl  Love is not just a commandment, it is who God is. I would not be concerned in the slightest of a new agers bubble. The Spirit revealed reality of who God is is infinitely better.
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she needs that demon spirit cast out of her, that spirit is convincing her that she is God. that shirley mclain thing
her house probably is not empty, if she is that deep in new age she is probably a channeler (another counterfit)
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Reps: 136,831,488,553,016,608 (power: 136,831,488,553,032) | | Originally Posted by gennaoanothen she needs that demon spirit cast out of her, that spirit is convincing her that she is God. that shirley mclain thing
her house probably is not empty, if she is that deep in new age she is probably a channeler (another counterfit)
I think you are giving the devil too much credit. The devil does not do anything that is original, he only twists what is already there. The devil is a liar and a deciever. I recognize the truth in what she is saying. She has several things wrong that are what you might coin as new age teaching, but she doesn't need to be rebuked for what she believes, she just needs someone to share who Jesus is with her...not man made religion...but the person of Jesus.
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23rd May 2009, 01:41 AM
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Reps: 136,831,488,553,016,608 (power: 136,831,488,553,032) | | Originally Posted by J4Jesus What bothered me about this woman's testimony was she kept talking about "energy". Other religions think God is just energy or a 'force'. But He is a person and the only way to know God is if we receive the person of the Lord Jesus Christ. She only mentioned God twice in over 8 minutes and she never mentioned Him as a person, nor mentioned Jesus. Our priority would change; but should be to have a relationship with Jesus, or we can't get to the Father. God is love but that love comes from the person of Jesus, not just an 'atmosphere', as mentioned. Any force or atmosphere or spirit that is not from the Father,Jesus and Holy Spirit is the wrong spirit and of the enemy. There's only 2 sources
Well I can promise you this...love does not come from the enemy.
James 1:16-18
16Don't be deceived, my dear brothers. 17Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. 18He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.
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23rd May 2009, 08:42 AM
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Reps: 78,665,091,878,813,952 (power: 78,665,091,878,818) | | Originally Posted by t1wGl Well I can promise you this...love does not come from the enemy.
follow the womans video backwards on the www and see what you get.
New Age deception
a quote from the web site recomended by the youtube poster of the video.
[QUOTE ]I was then given the message and gift that on my return to the earthly plane that my path would lead me to these fireflies on the earthly plane, and these fireflies will actually be earthly beings who have had ndes and it would be then that they would become known as the clan of the fireflies, signed lightbearer Ken[/QUOTE]
absolute deception, they are lightbearers, bringing love to the world that website was totaly void of the fact, that.
Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the Father but by me. John 14:6 and by the way, the video of Kenneth Hagins nde, displays Biblical truth, trust in church membership, see the flames of hell, call upon God, in the name of Jesus Christ, get rescued.
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Reps: 136,831,488,553,016,608 (power: 136,831,488,553,032) | | Originally Posted by gennaoanothen follow the womans video backwards on the www and see what you get.
New Age deception
a quote from the web site recomended by the youtube poster of the video.
[QUOTE]I was then given the message and gift that on my return to the earthly plane that my path would lead me to these fireflies on the earthly plane, and these fireflies will actually be earthly beings who have had ndes and it would be then that they would become known as the clan of the fireflies, signed lightbearer Ken[/QUOTE]
absolute deception, they are lightbearers, bringing love to the world
that website was totaly void of the fact, that.
Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the Father but by me. John 14:6
and by the way, the video of Kenneth Hagins nde, displays Biblical truth, trust in church membership, see the flames of hell, call upon God, in the name of Jesus Christ, get rescued.
I am not saying her description or explanation or understanding is correct. I am saying it is a big jump to go from misled and misinformed to New Age consiprator against Jesus.
If I were her and some Christian came up to me and said...you are a consiprator against God and the love you feel is a deception I would automatically shut them off thinking they are so blind. However if a Christian came to me "in love" and respected my views and embraced my experience at least to some extent, then that would open me to listening to the light that that person had to share.
We need to communicate to people that we are on their side, not against them. God is for us, not against us and all His promises are yes and amen.
Just like Paul at Mars Hill, we need to allow God to use what is already in place to share the good news of the Gospel. He regularly quotes pagan poets and philosophers, not to disprove them or discredit them, but to give strength to the message he was bringing which was that Jesus is the revelation of God's love and God's plan for man.
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23rd May 2009, 03:35 PM
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Reps: 155,696,005,911,999,168 (power: 155,696,005,912,020) | | | The issue is that putting them side by side simply shows that one is Biblically correct and one is not. By suggesting that because they have similiarities that they are the same and from the same source is Biblically deficient and just one of the many ways those of us who actually believe God's Word are criticised - not from the Word but from fantasy.
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Reps: 136,831,488,553,016,608 (power: 136,831,488,553,032) | | Originally Posted by KingZzub The issue is that putting them side by side simply shows that one is Biblically correct and one is not. By suggesting that because they have similiarities that they are the same and from the same source is Biblically deficient and just one of the many ways those of us who actually believe God's Word are criticised - not from the Word but from fantasy.
You should go back and examine all the people who missed Emanuel (God with them...in their very presence) because they were so zealous in it matching up with their traditional views of Scripture.
They crucified Jesus because He claimed to be God come in the flesh. That action was completely in line with their interpretation of Scripture.
My point?
We should be careful what we say is not from God just because it does not line up with the way we think He is supposed to present Himself.
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24th May 2009, 08:18 AM
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Reps: 78,665,091,878,813,952 (power: 78,665,091,878,818) | | Originally Posted by t1wGl You should go back and examine all the people who missed Emanuel (God with them...in their very presence) because they were so zealous in it matching up with their traditional views of Scripture.
They crucified Jesus because He claimed to be God come in the flesh. That action was completely in line with their interpretation of Scripture.
My point?
We should be careful what we say is not from God just because it does not line up with the way we think He is supposed to present Himself.
the Bible clearly shows how Jesus presented himself (virgin birth), presents Himself (the work of the Holy Spirit), and will present Himself(the second coming).
This thread is interesting we have been accused of the deification of man, new agers deify man. when I find the time I shall show where one of our accusers, intentionally misquoted Kenneth Hagin, and some of our brothers and sisters unknowingly believes that is truth, because they have not taken the time to examine for themselves, what Kenneth Hagin really said, in his book zoe the God-kind of life.
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24th May 2009, 08:26 AM
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Reps: 78,665,091,878,813,952 (power: 78,665,091,878,818) | | Originally Posted by t1wGl I am not saying her description or explanation or understanding is correct. I am saying it is a big jump to go from misled and misinformed to New Age consiprator against Jesus.
If I were her and some Christian came up to me and said...you are a consiprator against God and the love you feel is a deception I would automatically shut them off thinking they are so blind. However if a Christian came to me "in love" and respected my views and embraced my experience at least to some extent, then that would open me to listening to the light that that person had to share.
We need to communicate to people that we are on their side, not against them. God is for us, not against us and all His promises are yes and amen.
Just like Paul at Mars Hill, we need to allow God to use what is already in place to share the good news of the Gospel. He regularly quotes pagan poets and philosophers, not to disprove them or discredit them, but to give strength to the message he was bringing which was that Jesus is the revelation of God's love and God's plan for man.
in the new age message they do not have an unknown god, they are god
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