New Statement of Faith at Christian Forums

Originally Posted by Angeldove97

A great move-- though I don't expect anything will really change by this

That may be...but I like having a sure Christian covering here...

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I don't believe that the Scriptures supports your asterisks on "baptism". You forgot to add the following verses: 1 Peter 3:21; Romans 6:4-5; Mark 16:16

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I may add Romans in but the point was to be somewhat denominationally sensitive...as that particularly part of the Creed has been a sticking point in the past.

The baptism and ecclesiology wars are gonna be fun . . . .

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I things are kept to a dull roar that is fine...if there is a lot of pot stirring I get headaches and then get cranky.

Re: the Church.

You might want to change the capitalization of the word "Church".

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No, it doesn't. I don't mean to be a stickler here, but this is defining the word catholic against both it's intent, and against the understandings of the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Oriental Orthodox churches. It would be really helpful if there was a change in the wording to say something like "For the purpose of this website, the word catholic may be considered as referring to [as currently stated] and/or to a particular Church.". In fact, we could just leave it mostly as is, and cut out "and not exclusively to any particular visible denomination or doctrine", which might make it more widely acceptable.

In other words, the addendum about the word "catholic" should be reworded to give Catholics and Orthodox the leeway to interpret it in a traditional way that the addendum about baptism has by virtue of the word "may".

Um, apart from that, I don't like requiring people to believe anything to post somewhere in the first place. It's too restrictive and cuts out too many interesting people.

Yes, I managed to disagree with this from both the right *and* the left. I am very multifaceted in my crumudgeoniness.

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Minor correction needed: Would you all change this back to the way it was before, when the Creed was used?--

"*The word "catholic" (literally, "complete," "universal," or "according to the whole") refers to the complete, universal church of the Lord Jesus Christ and not exclusively to any particular visible denomination or doctrine."

Last time it used a phrase along the lines of 'and does not necessarily'. The Q & A post that explains it has this allowance:
"word catholic can be interpreted to mean"


The statement as it stands is a statement of protestant theology which does not leave itself open to the contrary view. All it needs to say is that either view is okay- rather than affirming what the Church absolutely is not (and thus supposing protestant positions). This is probably just something missed, but it would be important to correct it so that either view can be held. Thanks!

oh gosh, nm, i am so exhausted that i am not making sense.

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Here at my path's end I am lingering / In deep darkness buried / Beyond towers strong and high / Beyond all mountains steep

Above all shadows rides the sun / And stars always dwell / I will not say, "The day is done" / or to the stars, "Farewell."

Strongly support this position.

I believe it is fundamentally important for every Christian to be able to explain, when asked, what it is exactly that they believe; here is my own statement of faith:

A Christian is a person who willingly believes:

1. That the Universe was created by God.
(Genesis 1:1)

2. That the Bible is divinely inspired by God, and describes how we are to live our lives in a manner that is pleasing to God.
(Matthew 24:14)

3. That we are all sinners and as such, according to the Bible, are destined to go to hell.
(Romans 3:23)

4. That God came to earth in the person of Jesus Christ and promised that if we repent of our sins, and ask God through the power of the Holy Spirit to guide us through life according to His will, that we will have eternal life and a place with Him in Heaven.
(John 3:16)

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John 6:33: "For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."