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Unread 21st May 2009, 09:27 AM
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Christian Conservative Politicians

Christian Conservative Politicians

I want Christian Conservative Politicians to run for office that state they will represent good people and rebuke/execute evil people.

I want a Christian Conservative Politician that will represent the Christian side in the Cultural War.

There is a cultural war in America between Christians and Atheists. This war is being fought on the battlefield of politics. The battles are in the voting booth. The prize in the cultural war is the hearts, minds and souls of the children. The Atheistic liberal news media greatly influences both domestic and foreign policy by constantly reporting only bad news about Christians, Conservatives and Republicans and only good news about atheists, liberals and democrats. The agenda of the Atheistic liberal news media is to promote evolution, extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, adultery, homosexuality and the Atheistic Lifestyle by having democrats in control of government.

The determination of evil should be based on the Bible and physical reality. If the Bible says something is a sin/evil, it should be rebuked, but if the Bible says it is sin/evil and physical reality shows it leads to disease, death and destruction, then there should be execution.

I believe the Bible teaches all things should be dealt with by the following three levels of action;
1) If it is good - accept it and nourish it.
2) If it is evil - rebuke it but tolerate it.
3) If it threatens your existence - destroy it before it destroys you. This is self defense, which both the individual and society have a right and responsibility to do.

The first two are from the New Testament of the Bible and represent the Law of Love. The third is from the Old Testament of the Bible and represents the Law of Purity/Self Defense. The New Testament deals more with personal responsibility and the Old Testament deals more with the preservation of society. The Old Testament and the New Testament together present God's Law, a means of survival for a person, a nation and a world.

The process used in America to insure that the correct people are executed (the decision to go from tolerance to destruction) is the jury process and the authorization of war by congress. The purpose of law is to protect good people from evil people by restricting/executing the evil people so that good people do not have to take the law into their own hands. No process is ever perfect, but the imperfect jury/congressional process is the only possible way to preserve society/civilization.

The government should rebuke evil as in the Stop Smoking campaign where people are told, "Is there anything dumber than smoking". There needs to be a similar program for adultery, homosexuality, obesity, etc.

The Church needs to rebuke sin/evil in obedience to God and the government needs to rebuke evil because of health and safety reasons.
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Unread 21st May 2009, 09:56 AM
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I want Christian Conservative Politicians to run for office that state they will represent good people and rebuke/execute evil people.
You claim (a) that we should execute evil people. You have also in the past claimed (b) that all human beings have a sin nature. From this we can deduce (b - i): that all human beings have a bit of 'evil' in their nature. On the basis of those premises the conclusion that follows is that we must execute ALL human beings.

Alternatively, you can claim that you do not possess the omnipotent capacity to know whether a whole person is evil. I do not claim that you cannot morally deduce whether particular courses of action are evil, but merely that you do not possess the propensity to judge the entirety of a person since you cannot examine the contents of their heart.

There is a cultural war in America between Christians and Atheists. This war is being fought on the battlefield of politics. The battles are in the voting booth. The prize in the cultural war is the hearts, minds and souls of the children. The Atheistic liberal news media greatly influences both domestic and foreign policy by constantly reporting only bad news about Christians, Conservatives and Republicans and only good news about atheists, liberals and democrats. The agenda of the Atheistic liberal news media is to promote evolution, extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, adultery, homosexuality and the Atheistic Lifestyle by having democrats in control of government.
(a) You have yet to provide in evidence in the support of the pervasive existence of an Atheistic Liberal News Media and Entertainment Industry. Until you do so, we have no reason to accept such a claim.
(b) If the agenda of this apparent media conglomeration is to promote evolution, then why are Creationists given a platform with which to speak? If its aims are to promote homosexuality, then why (in the past, and even the present) have speakers been allowed to endorse anti-homosexual (sometimes even homophobic) views on national television? If the goal of this media is to endorse homosexuality, then why was Miss California (I think that's who it was) allowed to express her dissent on national television? And why, oh why, did this media even allow advertisements for Republican candidates to be broadcast concurrently with those of their Democratic counter-parts? Sounds more like the agenda of the ALNM is, like the ALNW itself, a myth.

The determination of evil should be based on the Bible and physical reality. If the Bible says something is a sin/evil, it should be rebuked, but if the Bible says it is sin/evil and physical reality shows it leads to disease, death and destruction, then there should be execution.
Unchecked corporatism can lead to a social reality of death and destruction, generating tremendously detrimental externalities along the way. Should we therefore execute unchecked corporatism too?

The first two are from the New Testament of the Bible and represent the Law of Love. The third is from the Old Testament of the Bible and represents the Law of Purity/Self Defense. The New Testament deals more with personal responsibility and the Old Testament deals more with the preservation of society. The Old Testament and the New Testament together present God's Law, a means of survival for a person, a nation and a world.
But what if it becomes necessary throughout the course of a war to abandon God's Law - both the Old and New Testaments - in doing 'whatever it takes'? What if the Law of Purity and the Law of Love must be violated in the process? What if, even further, one is placed in a situation where they must violate their Christianity in doing 'whatever it takes'?

The process used in America to insure that the correct people are executed (the decision to go from tolerance to destruction) is the jury process and the authorization of war by congress. The purpose of law is to protect good people from evil people by restricting/executing the evil people so that good people do not have to take the law into their own hands. No process is ever perfect, but the imperfect jury/congressional process is the only possible way to preserve society/civilization.
That's an interesting theory of law. I prefer to see law as a social contract by which society agrees to govern itself in order to maximize the public good.

The government should rebuke evil as in the Stop Smoking campaign where people are told, "Is there anything dumber than smoking". There needs to be a similar program for adultery, homosexuality, obesity, etc.
Preventative health programs are quite good. They attempt to inform the public and thereby minimize the negative externalities imposed on all society by lifestyle diseases. In turn, if public health outcomes improve, there is less reliance on medical science to cure diseases and less of an economic burden on the healthcare system. (Note, however, I do not endorse the ideas that homosexuality is any way a 'disease').
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The OP sounds like an episode of the The Twilight Zone. -->"Four O'Clock"
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Originally Posted by AirPo View Post
The OP sounds like an episode of the The Twilight Zone. -->"Four O'Clock"
Nah! The creature from the Black Lagoon is more like him!
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Christian Conservative Politicians

I want Christian Conservative Politicians to run for office that state they will represent good people and rebuke/execute evil people.

I want a Christian Conservative Politician that will represent the Christian side in the Cultural War.
I want Angelina Jolie's phone number. I got a better chance than you.
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Originally Posted by clirus View Post
Christian Conservative Politicians

I want Christian Conservative Politicians to run for office that state they will represent good people and rebuke/execute evil people.

I want a Christian Conservative Politician that will represent the Christian side in the Cultural War.
In other words, what you want, Clirus, is a Christian Democratic Party of the United States of America!

Wo-hoo!

I'll say, go for it.
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Is advocating genocide against the rules of these boards?
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Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:3

Sounds like genocide to me, although what with me being a heathen what would I know?
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Christian Conservative Politicians

I want Christian Conservative Politicians to run for office that state they will represent good people and rebuke/execute evil people.
Ein volk, ein Reich, eh?

What if these politicians, once they seize the absolute power you would grant them, decide YOU are one of the Evil PeopleŽ?

You know what they say about absolute power, right?
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