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Old 5th June 2009, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by WarriorAngel View Post
Scriptures tell us if an angel bring a new gospel, the angel is anathema.
Jesus said 'False prophets will perform great signs and wonders that may even fool the elect.'

Basically, the claims laid by Islam that he foretold 'miracles' or signs - are really lame and even been shown to be too basic to be actual prophecies.
Interesting. I did not know this.
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Originally Posted by WarriorAngel View Post
Scriptures tell us if an angel bring a new gospel, the angel is anathema.
Jesus said 'False prophets will perform great signs and wonders that may even fool the elect.'

Basically, the claims laid by Islam that he foretold 'miracles' or signs - are really lame and even been shown to be too basic to be actual prophecies.
exactly. also, all the prophets in history recieved thier message from God directly, but suddenly it has to be an angel in a cave. why?
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we all get tempted,this is natural.I have an do also.I to was drawn to thier religion an have thier bible so to speak.It is a good wise resad,but goes against what i know is my faith.Im not against it,but i cant agree with it either.Glad you got sorted as its not nice feeling drawn away.this often happens when we think we are at our strongest,like a test of faith i think.Im a curious type as well so i think the enemy sees this is me so im on my guard now.x
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Originally Posted by bunnydrop View Post
we all get tempted,this is natural.I have an do also.I to was drawn to thier religion an have thier bible so to speak.It is a good wise resad,but goes against what i know is my faith.Im not against it,but i cant agree with it either.Glad you got sorted as its not nice feeling drawn away.this often happens when we think we are at our strongest,like a test of faith i think.Im a curious type as well so i think the enemy sees this is me so im on my guard now.x
The best thing to do is remember that Christ established one faith - one Church.
Then seek that truth...
Go back to the beginning and read all thru history and it is very clear it is the Catholic Church where Peter still resides in the Pope.
And the fact Peter became the foundation is no minor detail.

I always look at the claims, then i find the history of them and i see in scriptures how the claims are false.

Muhammad very obviously went against EVERYTHING Jesus said - so how could he claim Jesus was a prophet and yet he himself was greater??

Prophets prophecy a great one is yet to come and they lay the path of who it will be and how they will live their life [so forth] as the case of Jesus being foretold over thousands of years.

Then take into account that Jesus said NO ONE shall come after Him but false prophets and false christs.

Muhammad said the followers of Jesus got it wrong and he would be God's actual messenger. Obviously putting himself in the exact position Jesus already foretold - false prophet.

Muhammas had not one miracle recorded... he healed no one. He did nothing to help humanity find God. In fact - he was pretty self centered.
He desired women, and took the choicest of the towns he pillaged. [theft]
He murdered [thou shalt not kill] and he gained power - the opposite of what Christ did or said we should do.
He married a little girl, and Jesus said 'a milstone around the neck of those who cause the loss of innocence...'
His moments of seizure like states is nothing like the calm peace one would find in the love of God when He or Mary is present. [ever see an apparitionist of children who are quite serene when seeing the Virgin - and they dont even feel pain??]

Muhammad - well, Jesus already said he would be false. That's enough for me.
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Old 10th June 2009, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by WarriorAngel View Post
The best thing to do is remember that Christ established one faith - one Church.
Then seek that truth...
Go back to the beginning and read all thru history and it is very clear it is the Catholic Church where Peter still resides in the Pope.
And the fact Peter became the foundation is no minor detail.
Very well said, WarriorAngel. This is my "second round" at being a Christian, and I feel totally drawn to the Catholic Church. When I was a Christian before, I was blown about by the "winds of doctrine" all the time, and eventually I gave up the confusion and embraced atheism because I couldn't make sense of Christianity. Now, I take comfort in the idea that Jesus left us the Holy Spirit and a visible Church to guide us.

I can't wait to come to the Church. I just need to study some more and then take the plunge (I'm intimidated by the thought of visiting a Catholic church by myself ).
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Well everyone, I no longer doubt that the Catholic Church is the one true Church and one true religion. Thank you for your encouragement and advice.
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Hi everyone. I am just requesting everyone's prayers, advice, and support. I have been greatly tempted to join Islam lately. Islam seems like such a beautiful religion (though not nearly as beautiful as Catholicism). Also, some of their arguments are rather convincing. For example, they teach that the Quran mentions things that science did not know about until recently. One example of this is the brain. I can't remember exactly what the argument is but I know it was a convincing one. That said, I realize that the Quran is not a science book but a religious book. Please pray for me and offer me some advice and support. Thank you.

I can't help but think why would you, a woman, want to be a Muslim? I can understand from a mans point of view, but not from a womans. Why would you want to put yourself in slavery and oppression?
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I can't help but think why would you, a woman, want to be a Muslim? I can understand from a mans point of view, but not from a womans. Why would you want to put yourself in slavery and oppression?
Well, I didn't see Islam as a religion of oppression and slavery. I saw the hijab (head covering) as liberating. And then I also saw the so called "scientific discoveries" in the Quran that supposedly were divinely revealed before science ever discovered them. Then I realized that those were false. Also, I guess I was looking for an "exotic" religion and Islam seemed to be an "exotic" religion to me. Thankfully, I have come around and I am faithful to the Catholic Church. This week, though, I was doubting the Faith again and considering Islam once more. Thankfully, through the prayers of some people on OBOB and other places, I was able to overcome those doubts. Thank you Jesus!
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Well, I didn't see Islam as a religion of oppression and slavery. I saw the hijab (head covering) as liberating. And then I also saw the so called "scientific discoveries" in the Quran that supposedly were divinely revealed before science ever discovered them. Then I realized that those were false. Also, I guess I was looking for an "exotic" religion and Islam seemed to be an "exotic" religion to me. Thankfully, I have come around and I am faithful to the Catholic Church. This week, though, I was doubting the Faith again and considering Islam once more. Thankfully, through the prayers of some people on OBOB and other places, I was able to overcome those doubts. Thank you Jesus!
Whenever you are tempted by such things remember that it all comes down to Jesus. The first question you must ask of any religion, any teaching, any sect, is how do they regard Jesus?

Pray that God will ever draw your heart closer to Jesus and increase your devotion to Jesus, and remember that your love is not one sided. He loves you more.

Your name here is Ave Maria, it is an interesting note that Muhammed rejected Christianity in part because he did not like the role that Mary played, her prominance and her importance.
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