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Old 21st May 2009, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CACTUSJACKmankin View Post
My bible, the torah, mentions nothing about the messiah being God, the incarnation of God, the son of God. it says God is one. God is it.
You are dreaming. The messiah is what it is all about cover to cover. God with us.
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Originally Posted by CACTUSJACKmankin View Post
My bible, the torah, mentions nothing about the messiah being God, the incarnation of God, the son of God. it says God is one. God is it.

And your bible helped to create what is now xianity.

Thanks for nothing.
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Originally Posted by dad View Post
You are dreaming. The messiah is what it is all about cover to cover. God with us.
I agree that the messiah is in it, but where does it say,in the OT, he's the human incarnation of God? where does it say that he cleanses the sins of mankind?
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Originally Posted by AngusArgyle View Post
And your bible helped to create what is now xianity.

Thanks for nothing.
dont blame us for the chapters they added. but you can blame Genesis and the flood on us, but most jews arent creationists.
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imagine a guy following you around, predicting what you would do. You in effort to change this prediction end up fulfilling his prediction. It wont seem like free will then, and only because you know what you must do in order to change the future, but cant. If god exists, this is exactly why we don't have free will, except you don't have someone telling us what we will do before we do it. The ability for ANYTHING to see the future with 100% certainly deprives all of free will.

My opinion is that the future is unknowable and if god exists he cannot know what the future holds.

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Originally Posted by CACTUSJACKmankin View Post
dont blame us for the chapters they added. but you can blame Genesis and the flood on us, but most jews arent creationists.

I don't blame you, much...
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Originally Posted by AngusArgyle View Post
I don't blame you, much...
I appreciate that.
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Originally Posted by CACTUSJACKmankin View Post
I agree that the messiah is in it, but where does it say,in the OT, he's the human incarnation of God? where does it say that he cleanses the sins of mankind?
If we were able to get saved and enter the kingdom of God as Adam was, we would need no saving. We are not, so we do. All through the bible, it talks of everlasting life, and salvation.. What do you think salvation means? Do you not believe in everlasting life? What do you think the Messiah was sent for? Fishing? Running for worldly office? Fighting man's wars? No. That is clear. He is the redeemer. It was always by believing in God, in His salvation, in His mercy and goodness, and coming Messiah, that men were saved. And it is by believing He came we are now saved.

7:14 -Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Immanuel = "God with us" or "with us is God"
  1. symbolic and prophetic name of the Messiah, the Christ, prophesying that He would be born of a virgin and would be 'God with us'http://www.studylight.org/isb/view.cgi?number=06005
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Originally Posted by AngusArgyle View Post
I don't blame you, much...
I think it is safe to say that He came by His Own accord, despite the rulers there. They tried to kill Him, if I recall.
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