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14th May 2009, 01:57 AM
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Hi everyone, I'm obviously new here, so I thought I would just take some time to say hi: Hi 
We all know there is a theory of evolution, whether we all understand it or not, but if by some miracle evolution was proven false, does creation have its own theory to take evolution's place if the need arise?
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14th May 2009, 03:01 AM
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As much as I'd like something to debate, it's hard to start a discussion about nothing. There's really nothing left to add to this answer.
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Or whatever creator of your choosing. "It" is very much left open to be, well, anything and everything. Proving evolution wrong really would take a miracle, and a good one at that. |
14th May 2009, 04:58 AM
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We all know there is a theory of evolution, whether we all understand it or not, but if by some miracle evolution was proven false, does creation have its own theory to take evolution's place if the need arise?
Hello and welcome to the forums! To answer your question: no, there isn't. Not only there is no theory of creation in the scientific sense of the word, but creationism is not at all the homogenous movement its followers like to portray it as. In this forum alone, we have and had: - Young earth creationists who believe that everything happened as described in Genesis, up to and including the Flood, in the past ~6000 years
- Old earth creationists, who accept that this planet is billions of years old but deny that evolution exists
- Heliocentrists
- Creationists who believe in some ill-defined "change" in the past and use this to handwave away
- People who believe that God created Earth 6000 years ago, then "embedded" age into it to make it an old planet (note that I didn't say make it appear)
- Creationists who believe that Noah's Ark and the Pharao's chariots have been found
- Creationists who claim that no evidence for creation or evidence supporting the Bible's version can ever be found
- Creationists who affirm that evidence can/will be found or has already been found
To develop a working creationist theory, one would either have to find common ground everyone agrees on or find a way to distinguish the correct version from the false ones (assuming there is a correct version, of course). I don't see either happening anytime soon.  |
14th May 2009, 07:45 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Darkness27 Hi everyone, I'm obviously new here, so I thought I would just take some time to say hi: Hi
Hi, Darkness --- nice to meet you --- and welcome to CF --- Originally Posted by Darkness27 We all know there is a theory of evolution, whether we all understand it or not, but if by some miracle evolution was proven false, does creation have its own theory to take evolution's place if the need arise?
I'm going to answer NO to this for three reasons: - Creation is not the opposite of evolution --- evolution deals with life after it got started.
- There is no such thing as abiogenesis --- God created life.
- Unless one believes that energy has always existed (like we believe God has always existed), they cannot be anything other than a creationist themselves --- (or in denial).
Science teaches that the amount of mass/energy in the universe is a constant, and has always been a constant.
The Bible teaches that the amount of mass/energy in the universe started out at zero, then was raised to its current level over a period of six days.
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Wrong. If God actually exists he is made of something. If God is made of matter then he is also made of energy. You are a potential atheist!
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by BananaSlug Wrong. If God actually exists he is made of something. If God is made of matter then he is also made of energy. You are a potential atheist!
And if He isn't made of matter? Originally Posted by John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
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Thread Hijack Alert! |
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Reps: 205,146,621,849,477,600 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET And if He isn't made of matter?
You think science should wait to see if angels are made of what element again? Originally Posted by Hespera Thread Hijack Alert!
Given that there isn't a theory of creation, I think this thread can officially progress to whatever now. | | |
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