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Originally Posted by tansy View Post
And presumably not all places were covered to the same depth.
Of course not. The earth is not flat but water seeks level. yet even if there was just one inch of water covering the tallest mountian on earth every tree would be under a mile or more of water. Remember trees do not grow above certian altitudes.

Another factor to consider is the extreme cold and wind that exists at that altitude.
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Life of trees underwater
written by Victor , January 03, 2008
QUESTION Hi, I was wondering how long do trees stay alive underwater before dying out and become denser in time. Also if trees could recover their life if the lake was dried up in time to prevent them from 'drowning'. Thanks

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written by Ray , January 27, 2008
ANSWER Once at tree is submerge it dies very quickly. Wood that has been submerged for generations picks up mineral from the water and takes on other desirable characteristics which makes this wood many times more valuable that new growth.



Flooding effects trees at every stage of their development, from seed germination and flowering to sprouting and vegetative growth. At each life stage, flooding can cause injury, changes in anatomy and growth form, decline, and death.

Flooding causes a loss of extent, reach and health of the roots. Over time, decline, death and decay are the results
Physiology Effects

Flooding effects on the physiology of the tree generically include energy production, root membrane health, and coping with toxic materials in the soil.

Within five hours, photosynthesis is shutdown.

Flooding in the growing season is worse than dormant season flooding, especially if the air temperature is warm. The higher the temperature, the faster and deeper the oxygen shortage will be felt, and the more the top of the tree will dehydrate. After only two weeks of inundated or saturated conditions the root crown area began to have many problems that can lead to decline and death.





Many tree species can survive months of flooding as long as their canopies remain above the water. But when foliage is completely submerged, death may occur in less than one month. This is particularly noticeable on conifers when lower branches covered by flood water die after only a few days of submersion.

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RELEVANT INFORMATION Re. FLOODED TREES






Life of trees underwater
written by Victor , January 03, 2008
QUESTION Hi, I was wondering how long do trees stay alive underwater before dying out and become denser in time. Also if trees could recover their life if the lake was dried up in time to prevent them from 'drowning'. Thanks




Answer for Victor and others.
written by Ray , January 27, 2008
ANSWER Once at tree is submerge it dies very quickly. Wood that has been submerged for generations picks up mineral from the water and takes on other desirable characteristics which makes this wood many times more valuable that new growth.



Flooding effects trees at every stage of their development, from seed germination and flowering to sprouting and vegetative growth. At each life stage, flooding can cause injury, changes in anatomy and growth form, decline, and death.

Flooding causes a loss of extent, reach and health of the roots. Over time, decline, death and decay are the results
Physiology Effects

Flooding effects on the physiology of the tree generically include energy production, root membrane health, and coping with toxic materials in the soil.

Within five hours, photosynthesis is shutdown.

Flooding in the growing season is worse than dormant season flooding, especially if the air temperature is warm. The higher the temperature, the faster and deeper the oxygen shortage will be felt, and the more the top of the tree will dehydrate. After only two weeks of inundated or saturated conditions the root crown area began to have many problems that can lead to decline and death.





Many tree species can survive months of flooding as long as their canopies remain above the water. But when foliage is completely submerged, death may occur in less than one month. This is particularly noticeable on conifers when lower branches covered by flood water die after only a few days of submersion.



Outside Anchorage Alaska you can see acres of dead forest standing in salt water. The earthquake in the 60s lowered the land and it flooded. Trees apparently dont like standing in salt water. They are still standing though dead. i suppose, if they are buried in sediment deep enough while still standing they will be hailed by future theocreologists as amazing polystratate fossils that prove Noahs flood.
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Originally Posted by Hespera View Post
You may want to think about where the altered state of reality actually is.

Enjoy you vapid ideas as best you can but it would be thoughtful if you didnt insist on trying to inflict it on everyone else.
It is actually a fact that the present is used in geology as the key to the past. Try to deal with it.
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The present is where we are at the moment, we can tell many things about the past by looking at what things are now and what they were 50 years ago and so on.

The oddball ideas about the earth being drastically different 4000 or so years ago where trees became full grown and bearing fruit in 24 hours and such are nothing more than a fantasy invented to try and hide fromt he fact that there are serious issues with the story.

I have heard lots of crazy wannabe explainations in my day but Dad takes the cake for the most outrageous.
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Originally Posted by dad View Post
It is actually a fact that the present is used in geology as the key to the past. Try to deal with it.
yup, you turned science on its head. time to go back to the intellectual drawling board.... yeah whatever.

theirs no reason to think that the nature of reality has changed since the beginning of the universe (if their really was a beginning at all)

Rather, its up to you show evidence of that the universe worked differently then it did. Until then continue to deny the obvious reality which as all the evidence to support it, unlike you who have none. which is the very reason you have created your argument. to deny evidence and reality.
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