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14th May 2009, 01:18 PM
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Reps: 2,296,392,850,439,835,136 (power: 2,296,392,850,439,846) | | Originally Posted by Soul Searcher  It would be pretty tuff to imagion a tree surviving being under over a mile of salt water for 6 months or more. The soil even after the flood receded would likely have quite a bit of salt and would hinder the grow of new plants.
My wife actually kills unwanted plants by using salt water on them. Quite effective. Not to mention that with all the fresh/salt water mixing together would play havoc on the marine life as well.
I'm not sure that trees would have had to survive under a mile of salt water for 6 months.
I think the water maybe started receding pretty rapidly. (Whether worldwide or local flood). I think if one reads the biblical account, it suggests that it did.
Would the salt water have been diluted a great deal by fresh water?
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14th May 2009, 02:08 PM
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Reps: 107,496,095,549,249,776 (power: 107,496,095,549,260) | | Originally Posted by tansy I'm not sure that trees would have had to survive under a mile of salt water for 6 months.
I think the water maybe started receding pretty rapidly. (Whether worldwide or local flood). I think if one reads the biblical account, it suggests that it did.
Would the salt water have been diluted a great deal by fresh water?
If one goes with the Everest covered version then yes the salt would have been very diluted. Massive kill of Salt water fish.
Not extinction. All one would need is a small pocket that was still livable for a species to survive.
As far as I know no group of real geologists and biologists have ever bothered to model what would happen in a flood of thi skind. Most likely because any origin of the water is so fantastic that the parameters of any model are unknown. |
14th May 2009, 02:26 PM
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I agree.
(Actually, it's more like 5 miles. But who's counting?  ) |
14th May 2009, 02:34 PM
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Reps: 2,296,392,850,439,835,136 (power: 2,296,392,850,439,846) | | Originally Posted by keith99 If one goes with the Everest covered version then yes the salt would have been very diluted. Massive kill of Salt water fish.
Not extinction. All one would need is a small pocket that was still livable for a species to survive.
As far as I know no group of real geologists and biologists have ever bothered to model what would happen in a flood of thi skind. Most likely because any origin of the water is so fantastic that the parameters of any model are unknown.
Thanks for your reply...it would be interesting to see if they could model it. Fromstuff I've read or heard, I think that it is suggested that (at least some) mountains etc were pushed up, and maybe some land sank. Also, some people think there was a load of water up in the atmosphere (it hadnt actually rained before) which then came down..and they would be able to give scriptures that would support those views.
I'm certainly not in a position myself to support, or refute any claims. Of course, one of the difficulties in looking into all this kind of thing is the age of the earth and all that kind of thing.
From my point of view, I can listen to all kind of knowledgable experts, who have all sorts of different ideas, but I'm not necessarily able to figure out who's right.
With some things, scientists, archeologists etc etc have said that such and such a thing couldnt have happened and so on and so forth...but then they discover new evidence which completely overturns previous ideas.
Anyhow there are many people who think it was a localised flood, which, if true, might get rid of quite a lot of difficulties.
I'm just interested in trying to see all the angles, and stuff i hadnt thought of before.
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Reps: 3,294,912,924,464,264,192 (power: 3,294,912,924,464,269) | | Originally Posted by TheBear Even at a one mile depth, the pressure is enormous. I wonder what that kind of pressure does to trees and roots, along with the worms and insects which contributed to the life of the trees.
at 5 miles deep ? I'd guess squish.
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14th May 2009, 02:42 PM
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Reps: 55,386,685,686,280,104 (power: 55,386,685,686,308) | | Originally Posted by Toclafane at 5 miles deep ? I'd guess squish.
Even at one mile deep......the worms and insects are gone. I'm not sure a tree would go "squish", even at a five mile depth. |
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Reps: 2,560,605,542,003 (power: 2,560,605,546) | | Originally Posted by TheBear Even at one mile deep......the worms and insects are gone. I'm not sure a tree would go "squish", even at a five mile depth.
Even if there wasn't a "squish" there would probably be a large amount of vegetation death due to lack of sunlight. I don't think sunlight can penetrate through 5 miles of water.
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Reps: 55,386,685,686,280,104 (power: 55,386,685,686,308) | | Originally Posted by PhilosophicalBluster Even if there wasn't a "squish" there would probably be a large amount of vegetation death due to lack of sunlight. I don't think sunlight can penetrate through 5 miles of water. I agree. |
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Reps: 110,182,959,778,071,968 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by PhilosophicalBluster Even if there wasn't a "squish" there would probably be a large amount of vegetation death due to lack of sunlight. I don't think sunlight can penetrate through 5 miles of water.
Three hundred feet is the end of any usable sunlight. Five miles and more down is not a nice place for a tree. | | |
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