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Old 15th May 2009, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Only because you call them both "theories".

Gravity is indisputable --- yet can still be considered a "theory" --- which, to me, is nonsense.

Macroevolution is disputable --- and deserves to be called a "theory".

There are theories ABOUT gravity, but it is not theoretical whether it exists. The nonsense is saying that gravity is considered a theory. (hint: strawman)

Anything is disputable. You can dispute whether gravity exists or has any effect. Likewise with "macroevolution". Dispute away, it will continue regardless.

Creationism of course does not deserve the title of theory, because it has no data to go with it. "concoction" would be a more suitable word.
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Old 15th May 2009, 12:51 PM
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Well "dad" I kind of agree with you on some of this. If you could just add
"willful ignorance" to your list of vices, and get over your non same state past obsession, you might find your head emerges from the cloud of insidious self delusion into the glorious sunlight of Reason. haha. I can string adjectives together too, but that is enough.
There is nothing, however one CAN be ignorant of as pertains to the claimed same state past! Or knowledgable about. It is not supported by any science of course, whatsoever, just assumed for no apprent reason.

People that practice selective ignorance are those that deny the documented Diety doings that were displayed down in the domain of the doomed.

Seriously tho. You are wasting a lot of your energy on that same / non same state business. And tis getting really stale to see it in every post you make.
Doesn't matter-- if it is true, and reveals the fact that so called science is based solely on a lie. I wouldn't expect you to like it! You can lump it, till you realize you have no case for creation.
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There is nothing, however one CAN be ignorant of as pertains to the claimed different state past! Or knowledgable about. It is not supported by any science of course, whatsoever, just assumed for no apprent reason.
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That is also true to a point. But if it were taught AS science it would have to be. You lose. It is supported six other ways from Sunday, unlike your fables.
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That is also true to a point. But if it were taught AS science it would have to be. You lose. It is supported six other ways from Sunday, unlike your fables.
Well, that seals it. I lose. dad says so.
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Originally Posted by dad View Post
There is nothing, however one CAN be ignorant of as pertains to the claimed same state past! Or knowledgable about. It is not supported by any science of course, whatsoever, just assumed for no apprent reason.

People that practice selective ignorance are those that deny the documented Diety doings that were displayed down in the domain of the doomed.

Doesn't matter-- if it is true, and reveals the fact that so called science is based solely on a lie. I wouldn't expect you to like it! You can lump it, till you realize you have no case for creation.

You are so close to a grasp of reality, but still so far! If you can just realize you are looking in a mirror as you speak, and have everything exactly backwards.

"I wouldn't expect you to like it! You can lump it, till you realize you have no case for creation." Perfect! Is that Freudian, or is that Freudian!

its like i said, somewhere inside you understand you have it all backwards.



oh yeah.. this is good! deny.. documented.. Diety (sic)... doings...displayed.. down... domain... doomed.

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You are so close to a grasp of reality, but still so far! If you can just realize you are looking in a mirror as you speak, and have everything exactly backwards.
It would seem like that to the one that actually had it backwards. I have what science doesn't and can't have, however, as a counter check...history and the bible, and the known and recorded spiritual to boot. Why live in emty denial? Time to move on.

"I wouldn't expect you to like it! You can lump it, till you realize you have no case for creation." Perfect! Is that Freudian, or is that Freudian!
I don't care if his mother liked it, and they laugh all night in bed together. The only thing that mattters is that the so called science foundation is a fraud.

oh yeah.. this is good! deny.. documented.. Diety (sic)... doings...displayed.. down... domain... doomed.

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No thanks. If I bother to bash bible belittling bluffers because they become bellicose, and boring, or behaving badly, it behoves me to be beyond ballyho.
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No thanks. If I bother to bash bible belittling bluffers because they become bellicose, and boring, or behaving badly, it behoves me to be beyond ballyho.
But basically babbling BS.
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It would seem like that to the one that actually had it backwards. I have what science doesn't and can't have, however, as a counter check...history and the bible, and the known and recorded spiritual to boot. Why live in emty denial? Time to move on.



I don't care if his mother liked it, and they laugh all night in bed together. The only thing that mattters is that the so called science foundation is a fraud.

No thanks. If I bother to bash bible belittling bluffers because they become bellicose, and boring, or behaving badly, it behoves me to be beyond ballyho.

Science has, uh, actual physical data to work with? Your bible is some dark marks on paper that anyone can ... and does... interpret any way they like. And NO physical data to back its more far out stories, like say the "flood".

If you extended your education outside its covers, you'd not need it explained what I meant by "Freudian"... but here it is.


A Freudian slip, or parapraxis, is an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is believed to be caused by the unconscious mind.
Some errors, seem to represent relatively clear cases of Freudian.... A Freudian slip is not limited to a slip of the tongue. It can extend to....


A verbal mistake that is thought to reveal an unconscious belief, thought, or emotion.


In "sheltered English" it means you revealed more than you intended.

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Since each model of origins [Creation vs Evolution] entails a comprehensive world-view, embracing the whole of reality, each is basically philosophical or, better, religious. The canard that evolution is science and creation is religion is obviously false since it is impossible for scientists actually to observe or repeat unique events of the past. Evolution is based on the premise of naturalism, not science. In fact, evolution is the underlying premise of more religions than creation.

Since each model of sickness [Demon Possesion vs Germ Theory] entails a comprehensive world-view, embracing the whole of reality, each is basically philosophical or, better, religious. The canard that Germ Theory is science and Demon Possesion is religion is obviously false since it is impossible for scientists actually to observe or repeat unique events of the past. Germ Theory is based on the premise of naturalism, not science. In fact, Germ Theory is the underlying premise of more religions than Demon Possesion.

Since each model of falling [God's Hold vs Gravitational Theory] entails a comprehensive world-view, embracing the whole of reality, each is basically philosophical or, better, religious. The canard that Gravitational Theory is science and God's Hold is religion is obviously false since it is impossible for scientists actually to observe or repeat unique events of the past. Gravitational Theory is based on the premise of naturalism, not science. In fact, Gravitational Theory is the underlying premise of more religions than God's Hold.

It is just so funny that creationists accept other scientific Theories but the Theory of Evolution is the one held in most contention (although other Theories are often placed under evolution by creationists).
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