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To say that evolution is universal is to say that evolution applies to all univeral entities. By your own statements, god created the universe... ergo, god existed outside of the universe... ergo, god (if he exists) is not a universal entity.
So what's the problem?
No problem at all.
The concept that covers that is what we mean when we say God is transcendent.
Originally Posted by Jester4kicks
Why stop there? Why not stop applying physical laws to everything?
Because sooner or later I would make a mistake and get corrected by an apologist.
So why are you making such a big stink about the idea that evolution is universal? For that matter, where did you even get the idea that anyone was applying the Theory of Evolution to anything outside of the planet Earth?
Originally Posted by AV1611VET
Because sooner or later I would make a mistake and get corrected by an apologist.
"dad'..I did not read your post, what ever it says. I'd guss it is just you rationalizing so as to be 'right".
I did learn something from you, i didnt know there was anyone like you. I get it now. You are on ig and will stay that way.
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For physical beings that can reproduce, yes. If angels are capable of reproducing with each other to produce offspring, then yes they evolve.
If so, show me what angels evolved from.
Show me angels actually exist without using the Bible. I'm not bulldozing. There isn't any evidence for the Loch Ness Monster, flying rods, or any other cryptozoological or parapsychological beings or powers. Am I bulldozing to say I don't believe in oni or jinn?
If you don't believe in angels, then you're just bulldozing anything in the Bible that gets in the way of your theory, so as to make your theory fit reality.
If you don't believe in the existential age of the earth as 4.5 billion years then you're just bulldozing anything in science that gets in the way of your religion, so as to make your religion fit reality. See, I can do it too!
Christians who believe in evolution need to make it clear that:
All life didn't evolve, and evolution isn't universal.
Or, they don't believe in angels, and they're bulldozing.
You still haven't shown how atheists not believing in angels is bulldozing. Your "embedded age" scenario is bulldozing even more.
They can't have it both ways.
Atheists do not believe in angels. There is no coherent link in your statement. Your argument does not compute///////////error////////
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Well next time don't quote me if the post is not directed toward me.
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"If God sent a wind from space, and blew waters off the surface, for example, the waters would go down. Just as if you take a cup full of water over a sink, and blow hard on it, a lot will go out of the cup. Elementary." -dad ^This statement nullifies his own argument by comparing a "present state" event to a "past state" event!
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