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14th August 2004, 02:38 PM
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15th August 2004, 02:02 AM
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15th August 2004, 02:13 AM
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15th August 2004, 02:31 AM
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15th August 2004, 03:04 AM
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Reps: 64,647 (power: 108) | | Originally Posted by datan so what are the hallmarks of a liberal Christian?
I'm not sure there are any easy ones, but... A tendency to be willing to admit that the answers are complicated, or to acknowledge the possibility of their own error.
So, as an example... I believe that public prayer (in the common sense) is clearly prohibited, and sinful. But... I don't necessarily reject people who disagree, or ask that they be "cast out", or anything. This is the behavior which is called "condoning sin" by people who don't do the thing you're talking about, and "Christian charity" by people who do. Perhaps it's both.
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15th August 2004, 03:13 AM
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that's the first time I've heard it.
do you mean like when the pastor gets up in front of the church and prays?
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15th August 2004, 03:41 AM
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15th August 2004, 03:46 AM
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that's the first time I've heard it.
Yeah. It's widely underplayed. do you mean like when the pastor gets up in front of the church and prays?
No. That's shared. I mean, say, people ostentatiously gathering in public to show off how they pray. Nowadays, they say things like "reminding people that this is a Christian nation". Christ forbade it, and for good reasons.
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15th August 2004, 03:47 AM
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15th August 2004, 03:49 AM
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Reps: 7,463,217,375,786,638 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by seebs CaDan said it excellently. Did you write that just now, or is it from somewhere, or what?
Just wrote it up. That's why I make the BIG MONEY!
Obviously, parts are well known quotes.
It started with Noah. I don't know why--I just started thinking about how Noah must have felt when he stepped out of the ark onto dry ground again. I don't even know what it means.
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