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20th May 2009, 09:16 PM
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Reps: 3,040,071,243 (power: 3,040,079) | | | "Hebraisms" are just Hebrew idioms and would only make sense in the culture which is sprang from. Just because one learns English doesn't mean they understand idioms from one culture to the next. Speaking to a gentleman from Australia he told me he going to nurse his baby....Now for me this is kinda weird because I figured only women can do that....but what he was saying to me was he was going to hold his baby.
Now I speak English well and didn't understand what he was saying at first. The same happens with Hebrew idioms, one has to know the idiom not the language to make sense of what is being said.
So, I would have to agree with wildboar that Greek is a must for New Testament studies. I think the use of the LXX helps in finding what certain phrases in the NT mean when referenced from the OT.
I believe Hebrew is important to know for Biblical studies so not to diminish it. I think both languages should be a must learn for biblical scholars.
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20th May 2009, 11:03 PM
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Reps: 5,679,379,721,032 (power: 5,679,379,725) | | Originally Posted by cyberlizard it is not that hebraisms do not make sense in the greek, just that they are alien to it... they are phrases from the language of another culture....
a stupid example can be found in 2 John v12, where the greek is literally, speak mouth toward mouth.... a stupid choice of words, but perfectly good in hebrew.
another would be the beginning of the sermon on the mount... "and he opened his mouth and taught them saying".... i am sure he could not talk through his ear.... another good example of Hebraic thought in greek language.
not to mention the ludicrous usage of the conjunctive 'and'... a definitive Hebrew feature.
I don't know why you keep saying these things are stupid. If you knew only Hebrew you wouldn't be able to read these texts at all. If you read only Greek you could at least still read them. But you would still have to learn the idioms involved. I don't think speaking "mouth to mouth" is any stupider than our idiom of "speaking face to face." Hopefully neither one are literally occurring.
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3rd June 2009, 11:38 PM
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I'll take them all into consideration. I got accepted into Eastern Mennonite University (undergraduate school), and they have a seminary there which both of my pastors attend. Does anyone know if a seminary would work like a community college? If I can just take random classes of my interest instead of going for a degree?
I learn better in the classroom environment, especially if i had a question, a book cannot speak words to me with a reply. =p | 
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17th February 2010, 01:48 AM
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Reps: 140,930,287,194,575,872 (power: 0) | | | You will find that Greek and Hebrew 'experts' are as far apart in their 'interpretations' of the Bible as the rest of the religious world. Read the English translations already available. They are quite consistent overall. | 
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Whether you decide to pursue classroom training or not, I recommend Goodrich's Do It Yourself Hebrew & Greek workbook for persons who have no knowledge of biblical languages but wish to learn. This workbook is, IMO, the closest one can get to either Greek 101 and Hebrew 101 without entering a formal class. With it, you'll jump in up to your ankles, and it makes a transition into advanced learning much easier.
Monce's Basics of Biblical Greek workbook, and Pratico's Basics of Biblical Hebrew workbook are also helpful. All are inexpensive and handy for review. I'd send links, but I not allowed to do that yet.
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