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Old 12th October 2009, 07:52 PM
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John MacArthur did a excellent job finding answers on the subject of divorce.

"In Matthew 19, Jesus states that God ordained the institution of marriage, and He has decreed that in every marriage, the husband and wife are to become one for life. Divorce destroys the marriage and thus breaks as under a union God Himself has established (Mark 10:9). "I hate divorce," says the Lord (Mal. 2:16).

Jesus' teaching on divorce is clear. He restricted divorce under most circumstances, and He forbade the remarriage of those who divorce on improper grounds, calling such remarriage adultery: "But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery" (Matt. 5:32). The word "unchastity" in that verse is the Greek word porneia, "fornication"--which includes all kinds of gross sexual immorality.

The Old Testament contained a few provisions governing the remarriage of divorced people (Lev. 21:11, 14; Deut. 24:1-4). The rabbis had taken these laws and broadened them to permit divorce for virtually any reason. Under the rabbinical laws, if a wife displeased her husband in any way, he was entitled to divorce her. Jesus stated that this was never the purpose of Moses' Law. In fact, Jesus teaching on divorce was given specifically to refute the rabbinical loopholes. Furthermore, He so rigidly opposed divorce, that when He had completed His teaching, His disciples concluded that it would be better never to get married (Matt. 19:10)!

So God's utter hatred of divorce is very clear in Scripture.

Nonetheless, there are two extraordinary cases in which Scripture teaches that God does permit divorced people to remarry.

First, note that Jesus Himself included this exception clause: "Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery" (Matt. 19:9, King James Version, emphasis added). He allows an exception in this one case, only "because of the hardness of your hearts" (Matt. 19:8). Clearly, Jesus is treating divorce as a last resort, only to be sought in the case of hard-hearted adultery.

The apostle Paul allows one more reason for divorce: if an unbelieving spouse abandons a believer, the believer is under no obligation in such a case (1 Cor. 7:14). This would free the abandoned spouse to remarry.

But we must emphasize that apart from those two specific, exceptional cases, divorce is not sanctioned in Scripture."
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Old 16th October 2009, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Doveaman View Post
What I find hypocritical about this subject, even among some Christians, is that if a person had five sexually illegal partners in five previous unmarried relationships, one after the other, and those relationships ended badly and that person eventually met and married someone else, that person would receive lots of praise for their new marriage relationship, even from among Christians.

But if a person was in one sexually legal relationship with one marriage partner and the relationship ended badly and that person eventually met and married someone else, that person would be condemned, even among Christians, as an adulterer for having remarried.

This sounds like hypocrisy to me.

It seems to me that you can fornicate as much as you like before marriage and then get married happily ever after to someone else, but to have been in a legal marriage relationship that ended badly and to get married to someone else is looked upon as an abomination.

If this is not hypocrisy I don’t know what is.

I think that to have lived in fornication with a number of partners then to have married someone else is far worst than to have lived in a marriage relationship with one partner then to have remarried to someone else.

Maybe the church should not marry anyone who ever fornicated, and not just those who are divorced.

I think that a person who lived in a previous unmarried relationship and eventually married someone else is no different to a person who lived in a previous marriage relationship and eventually remarried to someone else.
What I wonder is why you let yourself be concerned with what behavior is praised and approved of by Christians (or anyone else). The standard is the written Word of God as revealed in the Bible...nothing else.

If you have done something that is wrong (and clearly you feel that it's wrong or you wouldn't be bothered about it), what use is it to argue to defend or justify it? God's Word isn't going to change no matter what...period.

Do what you know is right; obey God and leave all the consequences to Him--and don't let yourself be distracted by the chatter and opinions of others. The main thing is that the Main Thing (Jesus) stays the main thing in our focus.

People's opinions of you or of marriage, fornication, adultery...whatever...don't matter in the grand scheme of things.
Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me." (Matt. 16:24)


You said:
It seems to me that you can fornicate as mush as you like before marriage and then get married happily ever after to someone else, but to have been in a legal marriage relationship that ended badly and to get married to someone else is looked upon as an abomination.

If this is not hypocrisy I don’t know what is.
If you want to live as a Christian and be an follower of Christ, then it doesn't matter what YOU think about it. It ONLY matters what the Bible says about it. It's a tough thing, I know. Being a Christian is a tough road and not everyone is willing to become as humble and obedient as Jesus was...but that's what's required. I sympathize with your view point and I have walked a similar path to what you have in regards to sexual immorality. However, I understand that God is God and I am not and God's not going to change his Word because it makes me uncomfortable. The best parts of being a Christian are often the intangable parts (the Fruits of the Spirit), but the day-to-day living of the Christian life is challenging and sometimes it just down right sucks. It is what it is--it's eternal life and it's the ONLY one offered so we either take what God gives us or we take our own road and wind up with nothing at all.
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