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As you know, 2 Corinthians 5:17 says, "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new (KJV)." Given that, my question is this:
If someone is divorced and remarried before being saved or even knowing about Jesus and the Gospel, and then is saved, would his/her second marriage be considered adulturous?
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As you know, 2 Corinthians 5:17 says, "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new (KJV)." Given that, my question is this:
If someone is divorced and remarried before being saved or even knowing about Jesus and the Gospel, and then is saved, would his/her second marriage be considered adulturous?
regards
mac
I basically asked this on page 1 I believe...so far noone's willing to answer this valid question.
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can I take it one step further and ask on behalf of a friend? her husband (after 35 years of marriage) decided he wanted a divorce and had at least one extra-marital affair. Yes, it takes two to make a marriage work, but she didn't know anything was wrong, she didn't ask for the divorce. Is it sound for her to remarry?
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The churches of Christ (not a denomination) holds to the view that the only way a person can remarry is if adultry was ivolved in the marriage or if the person mate died. Any other reason would be living in adultry
Sorry, but had to state that the Churches of Christ are another denomination. Actually the "Churches of Christ" are all the body of believers in all denominations, including the denomination of the church of christ. We are all the body. Man has made all of these denominations b/c we argue over who is right on some doctrine issues rather than focusing on Christ alone, and this includes the current day denomination called the church of Christ.
Let me also say that there are some wonderful people in the church of Christ and I have met many.
I know many years ago most denominations held to some form of the belief that remarriage after divorce was adultery based on Jesus' words in Luke 16:18 and Mark 10:11-12, etc. I am wondering what denominations currently still hold to this standard? I know some Mennonites do, and some Anabaptists, but I was wondering who else still holds to Jesus' standard for marriage?
I'm sure there are some out there, but I don't know of any Christian denomination that doesn't oppose divorce and remarriage. Some are stronger in their opposition than others, and some will go as far as to say that one who is divorced and remarried is living in continuous sin. But if that's the case, divorce + remarriage could logically be viewed as an unpardonable sin. The bible speaks of only one unpardonable sin, and it's not divorce + remarriage.
To the poster whose friend's husband sought a divorce after having an affair, she has biblical grounds for remarriage. He doesn't...at least not from the brief sketch of the situation.
I find it interesting that when the subject of divorce comes up virtually no one ever mentions Ezra chapter 10. God's prophet Ezra "rose up from before the house of God" and then commanded that 122 of God's priests divorce their wives. What was the priests response? Ezra 10:3, "Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to divorce our pagan wives and to send them away with their children. We will follow the advice given by you and by the others who respect the commands of our God. We will obey the law of God." (verse 5) "So Ezra stood up and demanded that the leaders of the priests and the Levites and all the people of Israel swear that they would do as Shecaniah had said. And they all swore a solemn oath." Verse 19, "They all gave their hands in pledge to divorce their wives, and for their guilt they each presented a ram from the flock as a guilt offering.
Yes God hates divorce, but sometimes it is the only course of action we can take to right a wrong.
Question. Lets take a theoretical situation. A God hating heathen judge is approached by a man and woman who are both atheists and want to marry, so he marries them. Did God join them together or did a heathen judge?
What does the Law of Moses really say about divorce?
When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. (Deuteronomy 24:1)
Moses only permitted divorce in the event that one of the parties had uncleanness in them. If a wife found no favor in her husband's eyes for some other reason, doesn't matter, he's stuck with her.
What is unclean is defined by God's Law, not by any man's personal preference. So unless the terms of the marriage covenant was violated, essentially meaning adultery (this is what Jesus was getting at in the Sermon on the Mount) there is no legal warrant for divorce. Contrary to popular belief, Moses did not permit divorce and remarriage for just any reason.
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I find it interesting that when the subject of divorce comes up virtually no one ever mentions Ezra chapter 10. God's prophet Ezra "rose up from before the house of God" and then commanded that 122 of God's priests divorce their wives. What was the priests response? Ezra 10:3, "Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to divorce our pagan wives and to send them away with their children. We will follow the advice given by you and by the others who respect the commands of our God. We will obey the law of God." (verse 5) "So Ezra stood up and demanded that the leaders of the priests and the Levites and all the people of Israel swear that they would do as Shecaniah had said. And they all swore a solemn oath." Verse 19, "They all gave their hands in pledge to divorce their wives, and for their guilt they each presented a ram from the flock as a guilt offering.
This has nothing to do with ending your marriage because it isn't making you happy. Ezra didn't say "you can put away your wives if you want to" he said "you must put away your wives". These marriages were contrary to God's Law (otherwise what was the guilt offering for?) and therefore invalid to begin with. This passage is talking about anullment, not divorce.
Originally Posted by LST 1154
Question. Lets take a theoretical situation. A God hating heathen judge is approached by a man and woman who are both atheists and want to marry, so he marries them. Did God join them together or did a heathen judge?
God joined them together, whether they acknowledge it or not.
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What does the Law of Moses really say about divorce?
When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. (Deuteronomy 24:1)
Moses only permitted divorce in the event that one of the parties had uncleanness in them. If a wife found no favor in her husband's eyes for some other reason, doesn't matter, he's stuck with her.
What is unclean is defined by God's Law, not by any man's personal preference. So unless the terms of the marriage covenant was violated, essentially meaning adultery (this is what Jesus was getting at in the Sermon on the Mount) there is no legal warrant for divorce. Contrary to popular belief, Moses did not permit divorce and remarriage for just any reason.
This has nothing to do with ending your marriage because it isn't making you happy. Ezra didn't say "you can put away your wives if you want to" he said "you must put away your wives". These marriages were contrary to God's Law (otherwise what was the guilt offering for?) and therefore invalid to begin with. This passage is talking about anullment, not divorce.
God joined them together, whether they acknowledge it or not.
Quite frankly I don't care what man says! My unsaved ex wife's "uncleaness" was a sexual affair with a 15 year old boy who when confronted with the proof decided she wanted him and not me, so she divorced me for him. In the end she got neither (his dad refused to at first even believe his son could do such a thing, then when he found it to be true refused to allow them to see one another under the threat of having her arrested.)
I think even a Pharicaical legalist would agree that this is "uncleaness" and this was "leaving" our marriage (1 Cor 7:15.)
Adultery isn't the only reason to divorce. If there is abuse, then divorce should be an option. It is wrong to expect someone to stay married to someone that abuses them. We need to follow the spitirt of the law and not the letter of the law. The words of Jesus are not to be read as a legal text.
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