Non-Pauline Christians

Are there any sects out there which discount the works of "the apostle" Paul?

I want to say I've heard some groups accept only the 4 Gospels as Scripture, but I can't remember. Maybe that will jog someone else's memory.

I don't know if there are any sects that do, but I have seen several people, online, question them and some even deny them.

some of them are fairly insane to say the least, look up sherry shriner to whom it may concern

God bless.

Last year, Pope Benedict declared a jubilee year for St. Paul. It was to commemorate 2000 years since his birth (Please, lets not get critical about exact dates and dates not being known.). There were a lot of events and bible studies that centered around Paul's writings and life. In the midst of this, I ran across a web site that doubted Paul's being an apostle. It stated that of the 25 times Paul is called an apostle in the Bible, 23 times he was using the term about himself.


So I had to think through Paul's self-promotion. Today many of us are disenchanted with self-promoting men of God who inflate their abilities to deflate our pocketbooks. Was Paul merely the first in a long line of these charlatans? The answer is there within the story.

1. Paul was careful to be true to the other apostles' teachings. He did not declare himself the only authentic interpreter of the Gospel.

2. Paul tried to run a self-supporting ministry just to avoid the impression of doing it for the money.

3. Paul changed his methods based on his audience, but he did not change his message to pander to the local populace.

4. Paul left a comfortable position within an established community (the majority within Israel) to brave perils and eventual death promoting a minority position.

So I finally decided that the evidence for his being an apostle was there and only a crazy man would do what Paul did without a firm conviction that he was doing it for something bigger than his own aggrandizement.

It would seem to me that to discount Paul is to discount the bulk of the New Testament. And to do THAT would put someone outside the boundries of Christianity.

I mean: How can someone not believe in big hunks of the Bible and still be a Christian? Where are they getting their teachings?

Whenever someone just makes up what they want to believe, they have pretty much made up a god of their own choosing. That could be called "Idolatry".

So the people before 300 AD were not Christians? I guess they all went to hell because they had no bible to believe in.

There have been Christians for as lon as there has been a God to love

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I really hate it when people distort my posts.

Did the people before 300 A.D. REJECT Paul's teachings? No. So your analogy is erroneous.

But today, with the 27 books of the NT establsished, to reject Paul's writings IS to reject Paul's teachings. Get the difference?

I am not the one who posted this question, but I joined this forum today seeking an answer to this question.

If the goal of Christianity is 'following the teachings of Jesus' (and not all will agree with that) what makes Paul such a great leader in doing so? In all those copious writings, how often does he refer to what Jesus said or did? Short answer -seldom.

And if you look at what Paul DID say about Jesus, the important thing to Paul is not the TEACHINGS of Jesus. It is the SACRIFICE of Jesus.

So, to Paul, the Christian community he was building was a new Jewish-type teaching, but replacing the animal sacrifices with the sacrifice of Jesus. Because of his writings, this teaching is still a major doctrinal point of many (maybe most) denominations.

So to re-phrase the question asked, what denominations or groups focus most heavily upon the TEACHINGS of Jesus? (Because Paul didn't.)