way of the master

Has anyone done the way of the mastere boot camp or done the course?
They use the ten commandments to reveal how we have fallen short of Gods standards in every way. Good point to bring across to people who think being a good person will get them to heaven,

Yes, I'm studying The Way of the Master, and have been for some time now. I have a thread of their television show and other biblical evangelism videos in the Missions & Evangelism forum.

Sounds interesting, is there a web site I could check for further info? Too bad that those courses don't exist here in Europe as far as I know... :/

Matthew 28:18-20 (Amplified Bible)

18)Jesus approached and, breaking the silence, said to them, All authority (all power of rule) in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.

19)Go then and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

20)Teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you, and behold, I am with you all the days (perpetually, uniformly, and on every occasion), to the [very] close and consummation of the age. Amen (so let it be).


Mark 16:15-16 (Amplified Bible)

15)And He said to them, Go into all the world and preach and publish openly the good news (the Gospel) to every creature [of the whole human race].

16)He who believes [who adheres to and trusts in and relies on the Gospel and Him Whom it sets forth] and is baptized will be saved [from the penalty of eternal death]; but he who does not believe [who does not adhere to and trust in and rely on the Gospel and Him Whom it sets forth] will be condemned


Acts 1:8 (Amplified Bible)

8)But you shall receive power (ability, efficiency, and might) when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you shall be My witnesses in Jerusalem and all Judea and Samaria and to the ends (the very bounds) of the earth.


Jesus has commanded us to go into the world and be His witness, and to make disciples of the nations by preaching Who He is and what He did. Also, if you'll notice in Matthew 28:18 & 19 above that in the next scripture after He said "All authority (all power of rule) in heaven and on earth has been given to Me." He commanded us to baptize all who believe. This is how we are supposed to be spreading the Gospel--it worked for the Apostles, it should work for us.

Jesus never told us to use the Law (which the gentiles were never under) to make people feel guilty about their lives then lead them through the "Sinners Prayer."


Romans 5:13 (Amplified Bible)

13)[To be sure] sin was in the world before ever the Law was given, but sin is not charged to men's account where there is no law [to transgress].


Just one more thing, it isn't a persons sins that sends them to hell, it's Adam's sin. So, bringing up their sins to them is useless.

Romans 5:14 (Amplified Bible)

14)Yet death held sway from Adam to Moses [the Lawgiver], even over those who did not themselves transgress [a positive command] as Adam did. Adam was a type (prefigure) of the One Who was to come [in reverse, the former destructive, the Latter saving].

Alan

You do realize that the Way of the Master teaches the false doctrine of eternal security or once saved always saved right?

Please read the following on once saved always saved:

Dialogue on Revelation 22:19 and Eternal Security

Revelation 22:19 Refutes Once-Saved-Always-Saved

Once Saved, Always Saved? (This Rock: March 2002)

__________________

You mean you are greater than God or someone was stronger than God and able to pull you out of his hands?John 10:39) Pretty anemic God. And if you did do this was it a sin you did willfully? (on purpose) (Hebrews 10:26) There is no more sacrifice for sins. You are done. You cannot be renewed to repentance. This is what happens when you refuse to take salvation as a "free"gift and think you can work your way. (Ephesians 2:8 and what the WHOLE BOOK OF GALATIANS was written about.)

The fact is we cannot earn our salvation. The fact is we can lose or forfiet our salvation by choosing to walk away from Christ to live a life of sin. It is possible to lose a gift we did not earn.

The word plainly teaches that anyone who chooses to live a life of sin after receiving Christ will not inherit eternal life. Galatians teaches us that by the works of the law we cannot be saved, it does not teach that once saved always saved.

Salvation is by grace alone, we can't earn, we don't deserve it, it's a gift of God. But we are plainly told to endure until the end, to keep the faith until the end. Why are we commanded to keep the faith if we cannot lose it?

No one can pluck us from His hand, but we can choose to depart from the faith.

The book of Galatians was written because the Jews were trying to convince the church that they had to observe the law of Moses along with belief in Christ. It was not written to establish the doctrine of "eternal security" but that we cannot be saved by the works of the law.

Paul warns the believers reading the epistle to the Galatians that if ANYONE who is living in sin, will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Jesus Himself said in Revelations 3:5 that He would blot out names from the book of life if believers do not overcome. Hebrews 12:14 teaches us that without holiness "no one" will see the Lord.

"We want each of you to show the same diligence to the very end, in order to make your hope sure". Why would do we have to make our hope sure if it's already sure?

Mister Al: You must have never studied the New Testament where Jesus himself alway gave the law to the proud and grace to the humble: the rich young ruler, the woman at the well, the lawyer who asked which neighbor he should love, etc. Jesus tells us in John 14:7, I think, if we love Him we will do the things which He has done.`

Without understanding sin, as Paul told us several times, we cannot understand how serious our sin is. The law makes it exceedingly sinful. This is exactly how I was converted...an ordained deacon and worship leader who was on his way straight to hell because I wasn't willing to give up my sinfulness. I had no gratitude toward Jesus' sacrifice.

And if you think WOTM uses "the sinner's prayer" then you must not know much about it. That is one of the principles we teach against. Check it out. You may change your mind if you listen to "Hell's Best Kept Secret" and "True and False Conversion".

Mr everybody:

"Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God."- Romans 7:4

To them, as in (Romans 7:6) , and can have no more power over them than a law can have over dead persons, or a dead abrogated law can have over living ones.

They are represented as "dead to sin", and "dead with Christ", (Romans 6:2,8) ; and here, "dead to the law", as in (Galatians 2:19) , and consequently cannot be under it; are out of the reach of its power and government, since that only has dominion over a man as long as be lives the law is dead to them; it has no power over them, to threaten and terrify them into obedience to it; nor even rigorously to exact it, or command it in a compulsory way;
there isn't any need of all this, since believers delight in it after the inward man, and serve it with their minds freely and willingly; the love of Christ, and not the terrors of the law, constrains them to yield a cheerful obedience to it; it has no power to charge and accuse them, curse or condemn them, or minister death unto them, no, not a corporeal one, as a penal evil, and much less an eternal one.
And the way and means by which they become dead to the law, and that to them is,

__________________
2 Corinthians 5:7 "For we walk by faith, not by sight"

Things aren't always what they seem. It depends on the person who is viewing them.

Jeremiah 17:13 ".....the Lord, the fountain of living water."