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Old 22nd April 2009, 10:38 AM
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Janet Napolitono: Illegal Immigration Not a Crime

And yes, when we find illegal workers, yes, appropriate action, some of which is criminal, most of that is civil, because crossing the border is not a crime per se. It is civil. But anyway, going after those as well.
Here.

There's a law against improper entry.

They can send you to jail for it. But it is civil. It's not a crime.

heh.
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"Even as it stands, the Home Guard could only exist in a country where men feel themselves free. The totalitarian states can do great things, but there is one thing they cannot do: they cannot give the factory-worker a rifle and tell him to take it home and keep it in his bedroom. That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
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Old 22nd April 2009, 10:43 AM
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I think the Bush administration is going to look like good times when we're finished with these idiots that are in charge now.
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I think she meant that it is a civil violation rather than a criminal one.

Good times for who?
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Originally Posted by aisy_Day View Post
I think she meant that it is a civil violation rather than a criminal one.

Good times for who?
It's a misdemeanor for the first offense and a felony for the second offense. Those are what most people call crimes.
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Originally Posted by Panzerkampfwagen View Post
Here.

There's a law against improper entry.

They can send you to jail for it. But it is civil. It's not a crime.

heh.
Where did Obama find that idiot for DHS?
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Where did Obama find that idiot for DHS?
In Arizona.
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Originally Posted by aisy_Day View Post
I think she meant that it is a civil violation rather than a criminal one.

Good times for who?
Good times for people who respect and obey the law.
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Originally Posted by Panzerkampfwagen View Post
In Arizona.
I wonder if she realizes that kidnapping is a crime, especially when it committed by illegal aliens, even if it is illegals kidnapping other illegals. Good grief, there is a problem when Mexican drug cartels do a better job at deportation than our own government.

Mexican Cartels Make Phoenix U.S. Kidnap Capital | Judicial Watch
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Where did Obama find that idiot for DHS?
The idiot also thinks the 911 hijackers entered through Canada.
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Are these really the best and the brightest we can find?
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