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Reps: 5,038,481,752,567,930 (power: 5,038,481,752,583) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET  Yes, nature is opposed to God.
One of your most bizarre quotes yet. It is not opposed to God. Nature, as part of God's creation, is eagerly awaiting it's redemption from it's bondage to decay (Rom 8). You are conflating nature with the effect the fall had on nature.
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Reps: 5,038,481,752,567,930 (power: 5,038,481,752,583) | | Originally Posted by Hespera Two minor subdivisions of the same utterly bizzare concept. What is to choose between them?
If you were interested in understanding Christian theology they might be of interest to you.
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The nature of reality is of interest to me. |
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Reps: 110,182,959,778,071,968 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by mark kennedy Yea never mind the fact that you already know that the ancestry of chimpanzees is represented by three teeth.
It is true that every chimpanzee skull dug up in Africa is immediately celebrated as one of our ancestors, there are no exceptions.
Little contradiction here? What was wrong with the first version you had, 'everytime and (sic) ape skull is dug up it's immediately classified as human"? Other than all of it being wrong, that is.
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How odd- I post ( re-post twice) a response to Kennedy's tripe that directly responds to his claims, and he just ignores it.
If he once again claims anything about the '99%' thing being a lie and all that, we will know just who is doing the lying... |
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Reps: 208,643,633,902,378 (power: 208,643,633,912) | | Originally Posted by Hespera My Dad has a saying about preachers, he says the more you hear them thunder on about sin and denounce all them wrong doers, the more you know they are talking about themselves.
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Reps: 208,643,633,902,378 (power: 208,643,633,912) | | Originally Posted by mark kennedy All this error correcting going on and not one of you have ever admitted that the statement that Chimpanzee and Human DNA is 99% the same is an error or a lie. This is demonstrably false and as I have posted my reply in which I do just that TREE TIMES FOR YOU, I think it safe to consider it a lie.
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Reps: 208,643,633,902,378 (power: 208,643,633,912) | | Originally Posted by mark kennedy How close are humans and chimpanzees in their DNA? Is it 99% or do you know? It depends on which portions of DNA you are comparing. It really says a lot about people when they abandon all line of evidence to focus on the individual making the statement rather then considering the reason behind it. It says even more when a person continues making the exact same argument for going on 6 years despite the fact that multiple, well qualified individuals have taken the time to explain how your claims are in error. It saddens me that evolutionists are breeding growing levels of ignorance in an attempt to bury real world evidence beneath an avalanche of controversy.
It is religious fanatics and ignoramuses that try to stir up controversies where none exist. The honest thing to do would be to admit the weaknesses of Human/Chimpanzee common ancestry while expounding on its strengths.
The weakness is a lack of complete knowledge. The strengths are the anatomical, genomic, and biogeographic evidence.
They almost never do that on here, instead they encourage these shallow criticisms and semantic spam tactics. Well, at least we do not just outright ignore posts that respond directly and completely to our claims and then protest that nobody will respond. Now if any of you want to try a real debate my invitation is waiting at the top of the forum.
I've seen your 'debates' here and elsewhere. You never produce anything in them that you haven't been producing for the last several years - a few misinterpreted quotes, a few instances of a rather simplisitc "understanding" of evidence, multiple attempts at intellectual martyrdom,oodles of personal disbelief, wash rinse repeat, and in the end, regardless of what information your opponant presents (which has already been opresented to you dozens if not hundreds of times), you engage in these whiny rants about how mean everyone is and how you won.
What is the point other than to help you stroke your ego, protected as it is by a shield of invincible ignorance?
Mean? Maybe - ad hom? Not at all. The truth is not ad hominem. Example - It is a fact that despite the fact that it has been explained to you by at least two practicing geneticists and a molecular phylogeneticist (and who knows how many biologists) that indels are one-time events and it is ludicrous to insist that all of the nucleoitdes involved in an indel be added to the overall mutation rate that you still insist that they should be and use this foolish proposition as the basis for your "it is a lie to claim that humans and chimps are 98/99% identical" mantra.
That is invincible ignorance, and you've been displaying on that and other issues for over 5 years. hmmm...I think I'll go out and enjoy nature rather then having an a priori assumption about it forced down my throat.
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