why are we still trying to blame bush? yeah he liked to spend money, but he has been out of office for a while now...we have a new commander in chief, and so far he has been bush times 10
I'm not blaming Bush - I'm pointing out that the Republican outcry didn't happen until Obama entered office.
This isn't about policies...this is about a person.
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why are we still trying to blame bush? yeah he liked to spend money, but he has been out of office for a while now...we have a new commander in chief, and so far he has been bush times 10
Nobody is trying to blame bush, we are just pointing out that it's odd that after all the spending under bush, people all of a sudden now that we have a democratic president again, hate big spending.
Where was this hatred of big spending during the bush years?
I'm not blaming Bush - I'm pointing out that the Republican outcry didn't happen until Obama entered office.
This isn't about policies...this is about a person.
that is not completely true...there were a few that were complaining about bush's spending as well. they may not have been having tea parties, but they should have. and really what is so bad about making the govt lisen to us? aren't they suppose to work for us? when was the last time that you felt like they were trying to do something for our benefit? the dems should be all over this, since when was it ok by them to use our money and give it to big business?
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I'm just curious... what happens at these events and what is their actual concrete aim to do? I mean, is there something more to this than just mental masturbation to feel good about yourself without actually bothering to do anything concrete?
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I'm just curious... what happens at these events and what is their actual concrete aim to do? I mean, is there something more to this than just mental masturbation to feel good about yourself without actually bothering to do anything concrete?
It's a way for conservatives to express their anger at liberals for running up huge deficits that our designed to stave off an economic collapse. They want to go back to the old days when we ran up huge deficits so we can rebuild middle eastern countries. Conservatives hate it when our government spends our money on ourselves. They want us to send our money and jobs overseas. I did hear, however, that a compromise is being reached in congress whereby the stimulus money will be run through Halliburton, which should appease the conservatives who were worried that our tax money would be mismanaged by the government instead of being mismanaged by a private corporation.
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There were plenty of Republicans complaining about deficit spending by Bush and his Republican Congress. However, we also had an attack in our country that happened in his first year in office.
We were at war and had a hit to the economy at the same time. I believe those tax cuts from Bush & (his) Congress, is what enabled us to keep from going even deeper into debt. No one can deny there was the largest revenue surge in 40 years under Bush because of those tax cuts.
But, of course, they spent it all while tacking on more over-budget Federal spending that just kept adding on to the National Debt.
But it wasn't all war spending, Bush & Congress had lots of social spending as well.
Bush Totals:
$158 billion in 2002
$378 billion in 2003
$413 billion in 2004
$318 billion in 2005
$248 billion in 2006
$162 billion in 2007
$410 billion in 2008
All budgets are from October through to next years September.
This allows for any newly elected Congress and Presidents to have a say so in allocating spending in the budget. Or should I just call it overspending? =(
The 2009 budget deficit is $1.75 trillion, I believe, and I guess we can call that the Bush/Obama & Democrat Congress budget.
And don't let that 2007 fool you either, the Dem. Congress told President Bush that they would not pass legislation to fund the troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan until he agreed to an additional non-war discretionary spending, thus, the extreme increase in 2008 once all backs were scratched.
When Bush came into office (2001), the national debt stood at $5.727 trillion. When Bush left Office it was around $10 trillion plus. We call that a $4 trillion add-on to our national debt.
Therefore, in two terms and 8 years of wartime, Bush did have an increase in the National debt $4 trillion.
However, I find it convenient that nobody ever talks about how the Democrats held power & control of the Congress after the 2006 elections.
I seem to recall a chant of theirs they campaigned on in 2006 called "PAYGO" budgeting.
It sure did go, as in bye bye.
The president cannot by himself create deficits or enact any policies. Congress has the purse strings and credit card and has to agree everything.
Now we have for fiscal year 2010, a $3.55 trillion dollar budget proposed by Obama and being stuffed down our throats by the Pelosi and Reid Democrat majority.
One years Budget!
More cost than the U. S. spent on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the general war on terror and Hurricane Katrina in the last seven years. And that’s before you throw in the $2 trillion fiscal stabilization plan.
Pelosi and Reid called Bush's budgets "dangerous" and "unpatriotic."
However, that was back in 2006. That was then, this is now.
Therefore, when taxpaying citizens start to get upset with this out of control spending that has been happening of late, I don't want to hear a bunch of crying about Bush.
We are looking at an $11 trillion National Debt right now and these proposals are going to double it to over $20 trillion the way things stand now, as current policies would add a staggering $9.3 trillion.
And that doesn't even include Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid spending that is unfunded and will really hit when 77 million baby boomers retire. And don't forget the future spending guarantees like veterans' benefits and federal employee pensions.
Entitlement programs are pushing more than 60 percent of the federal budget now. (I believe)
It isn't about Bush or Obama or any one person. This has just gotten crazy.
I need to work every weekday, but I will be doing my best to be at my Tea Party.
However, I will be keeping the Earl Grey; I will get some of the mint or green tea crap outta the cabinet. =D
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"To be sure, what theoretically began as a protest against profligate government has morphed into a Rorschach Test of right-wing political grievance. (For examples, see this video collection from Huffington Post.) Glenn Beck's astro-turf acolytes decry saboteurs and "communists," evolution and "brainwashing machines." The tea baggers' strange brew of Birthers and Birchers proclaim Barack Obama foreign-born while issuing calls to "burn the books." In the end, the far-right foaming at the mouth (starting around the 1:58 mark above) was enough for the renegade conservative blog Little Green Footballs:
"This is some really deranged stuff, and the audience is eating it up."
"Shuster and Gross show just how mindlessly reactionary and deranged these astroturf protests are. What exactly are they protesting? Gross has no good answers, because, for the vast majority of Americans, Obama's economic plans actually benefit them. So is this just another example of sheeple, protesting to better the situation of the top 1%, like Hannity and Santelli (both of whom will be attending "tea parties")? Or could they just be protests by people whipped up into a lather by people like Hannity and Santelli into just being angry without cause?"
Given that bush spent 5 times as much as clinton why weren't you doing this during his presidency?
I would have gone way before Bush if this had begun eariler. It's time to stop the madness.
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