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13th May 2009, 03:13 PM
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You expect real things to some how have something to do with imaginary events? | 
13th May 2009, 03:38 PM
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Thank you for making my point.
According to you guys:
It's imaginary because there's no evidence --- there's no evidence because it's imaginary.
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13th May 2009, 03:45 PM
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According to you guys:
It's imaginary because there's no evidence --- there's no evidence because it's imaginary.
Wrong, but even so, what do you have against circular logic? You don't complain about the God/Bible circle...
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13th May 2009, 03:47 PM
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That's right --- only God can do it.
Just like when I say the Trinity cannot be explained scientifically because it is a violation of the Law of Non-contradiction.
Only God can do it.
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Just like when I say the Trinity cannot be explained scientifically because it is a violation of the Law of Non-contradiction.
Only God can do it.
You mean only you can do it.
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No wonder nothing was found.
Well, if you look for nothing, you're sure to find it.
And, unfortunately, prattle on about it incessantly. | 
13th May 2009, 09:54 PM
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Faith and ignorance are gonna make a very thin shield.
The very real threat to all of us goes on regardless. Our whole society is in danger and stupidity is a major reason for that danger. I hope I have been a citizen long enough that I can say that and not have it taken wrong by anyone else.
Considering more people care about American Idol than the repair/upgrade of the Hubble Space Telescope your statement is 100% true. The literal fundamentalist movement and entertainment industry is going to create an America that would be years behind the rest of the world in scientific achievements.
I've been watching the Atlantis crew work on the NASA channel all day!
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Reps: 1,141,313,842 (power: 1,141,320) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET Well, I'm sure if we all did that, nothing else would get done --- would it?
I wonder how many people will live longer today because surgeons cared more about their patients than they did the Hubble Space Telescope?
(By the way --- how did it break in the first place?)
Me thinks someone is just a bit sore about a certain eye-in-the-sky that has been spotting things that contradict certain religious texts.  | 
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The very real threat to all of us goes on regardless. Our whole society is in danger and stupidity is a major reason for that danger.
So what is the insight?
AV sez Well, I'm sure if we all did that, nothing else would get done --- would it?
I wonder how many people will live longer today because surgeons cared more about their patients than they did the Hubble Space Telescope?
(By the way --- how did it break in the first place?)
hespera sez: yes. how better to illustrate the utter fecklessness of faith / ignorance as promoted by. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |