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Well, if I take Genesis literally then why not also with the rest of the Bible.
Matthew 5:45 so that you will become children of your Father in heaven, because he makes his sun rise on both evil and good people, and he lets rain fall on the righteous and the unrighteous.
So Jesus believes that God makes the sun rise, so literally the Sun moves, like a balloon with Helium rises/moves. So if the sun does the moving, the earth must be standing still.
Sometimes all this literal talking is making me think silly. And for all you people with no sense of humor, flame away!
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Well, if I take Genesis literally then why not also with the rest of the Bible.
Matthew 5:45 so that you will become children of your Father in heaven, because he makes his sun rise on both evil and good people, and he lets rain fall on the righteous and the unrighteous.
I met a modern policeman that denied slow shifting continental shelves. It's true! While driving my car, he told me to stop! Didn't he know this is impossible? He also was denying the earth rotating, moving around the sun, and the sun orbiting the center of the milky way.
But the way, the bible also talks about jesus stopping when he thought someone touched him. Duh! I guess the author was also denying everything that policeman was.
So I'm with ya dude. Great great argument. You're really really smart.
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So how come in a race, it is the people on the track who end up collapsed with exhaustion while the man with the starter pistol is as fresh as a daisy?
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Don't forget that Jesus says that only through him can you make it into heaven. So that means you need to actually bore a hole into Jesus and go through him if you really want to take it literally.
Well, if I take Genesis literally then why not also with the rest of the Bible.
Matthew 5:45 so that you will become children of your Father in heaven, because he makes his sun rise on both evil and good people, and he lets rain fall on the righteous and the unrighteous.
So Jesus believes that God makes the sun rise, so literally the Sun moves, like a balloon with Helium rises/moves. So if the sun does the moving, the earth must be standing still.
Sometimes all this literal talking is making me think silly. And for all you people with no sense of humor, flame away!
You didn't even bother to comprehend the passage... Just why would you assume that's what he meant? What do people say these days? "Oh, what a beautiful sunrise!" "Look the sun already raised" and so on. Does that mean they believe the sun revolves around the earth?
Even if you are making a joke, it doesn't make any sense
Besides, in the original greek text (TR) is used the verb "anatello" (sorry I don't have a greek keyboard) whos main use in the new testament is "rise" as in sunrise. It is also used that the Lord rised from Juda and a cloud can also rise in the sky...
Don't forget that Jesus says that only through him can you make it into heaven. So that means you need to actually bore a hole into Jesus and go through him if you really want to take it literally.
Whataminute! You're not implying that the Bible -- though inspired by God -- is written from man's limited, earth-bound perspective, are you??????
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Whataminute! You're not implying that the Bible -- though inspired by God -- is written from man's limited, earth-bound perspective, are you??????
Of course it is, mallon, isn't it obvious that a "day" in Genesis 1 is unquestionably an Earth-bound day?
And according to Genesis 1:14 the entire point of the entire billion-light-year-wide universe, with its innumerable galaxies and cosmic wonders, is
to mark time for humans.
("My grandfather clock was too large for the shelf / and it made the cosmos redundant!")
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