And Jesus answered and said unto them, " Take heed that no man decieve you. For many shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
I have heard pastors talk about this verse and explain it as the false Christs arising claiming to be the messiah. Now I know that this fact is discussed later in this same chapter and elsewhere in scripture, but I do not think that this explanation fits this particular passage. I am inclined to believe that Jesus is talking about teachers claiming Christ as messiah , then proceeding to deceive many with false teaching.
Am I getting this right?
Thank you for taking time to read this.
God bless!
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And Jesus answered and said unto them, " Take heed that no man decieve you. For many shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
I have heard pastors talk about this verse and explain it as the false Christs arising claiming to be the messiah. Now I know that this fact is discussed later in this same chapter and elsewhere in scripture, but I do not think that this explanation fits this particular passage. I am inclined to believe that Jesus is talking about teachers claiming Christ as messiah , then proceeding to deceive many with false teaching.
Am I getting this right?
Thank you for taking time to read this.
God bless!
Honestly it's both. Men have and will continue to claim that they are Christ, and thus deceive many. But eventually Satan will transform himself, as an angel of light and deceive many, claiming to be Christ returned.
many shall claim to be Christian ministers, and say many things...even claiming Christ all the way...but some will not be real Christians at all, but counterfits or tares...planted on purpose to deceive whoever they can.
they look like Christians, they claim Christ in public even...but they are not. They are of the Devil.
2Cor11:13-15...(whole chapter really)
that part of the Mat24 scripture also links up with the first Seal in Rev6...false religon.
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And Jesus answered and said unto them, " Take heed that no man decieve you. For many shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
I have heard pastors talk about this verse and explain it as the false Christs arising claiming to be the messiah. Now I know that this fact is discussed later in this same chapter and elsewhere in scripture, but I do not think that this explanation fits this particular passage. I am inclined to believe that Jesus is talking about teachers claiming Christ as messiah , then proceeding to deceive many with false teaching.
Am I getting this right?
Thank you for taking time to read this.
God bless!
When you want to understand fine details about the true meaning of scripture, you have to examine what God actually said. To do this, you have to examine the actual words used in the originals. As the new testament was written in Greek, rhis requires examining the Greek words used.
In this case, it says that many shall come, saying "eimi Christos." The greek word eimi is word number 1510 in Strong's Greek Dictionaryso you can look it up in any of several Greek dictionaries that use Strong's numbering system. It simply means. "I am." You don't even have to be a Greek scholar to figgure out that Christos means Christ.
So thw Greek text says exactly what the English says, that many shall come saying, "I am Christ."
And lately there have been quite a few falce Christs coming, but the great false Christ, the Antichrist, will be the great deceiver in the last days.
So I have to say this passage specifically refers to people who will actually claim to be Christ, and not just to teach about him. (We are warned about those in other scriptures.)
Sorry about all tye typos, i cannot see well tonight.
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Thank you for the responses. Stryder06, zeke37, and Biblewriter.
Basically I find myself in that place in my walk where I am aware that I may have taken up some false teachings. I do have a Strongs exhaustive concordance and it has been pretty helpful in getting the original meaning of the translated words.
Do any of you have any opinions on the companion bible ? I was drawn to it because it claims to use the bible to interpret itself.
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It uses the Massorah and all available texts, giving comparisons and linking up similar events...it is a great treasure...not that I completely agree with all the conclusions, even still...it's the single best resource that I use...(and a Strong's Concordance)
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My question has to do with Matthew 24:4,5
And Jesus answered and said unto them, " Take heed that no man decieve you. For many shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
I have heard pastors talk about this verse and explain it as the false Christs arising claiming to be the messiah. Now I know that this fact is discussed later in this same chapter and elsewhere in scripture, but I do not think that this explanation fits this particular passage. I am inclined to believe that Jesus is talking about teachers claiming Christ as messiah , then proceeding to deceive many with false teaching.
Am I getting this right?
Thank you for taking time to read this.
God bless!
Eleyah, if you realise while reading these verses that Jesus is talking “Directly” to his disciples and warning “Them”!!! The reason for that was because Messianic Judaism was rife at the time and Jewish messiahs were popping up every other day around Judea and Galilee. Let me give you just a few examples of messiah’s around Jesus and the apostle’s times;
Josephus writes;
About 44 CE, a man named Theudas appeared, claiming to be a prophet. He urged the people to follow him with their belongings to the Jordan, which he would divide for them. According to Acts 5:36 (which seems to refer to a different date), he secured about 400 followers. Cuspius Fadus sent a troop of horsemen after him and his band, slew many of them, and took captive others, together with their leader, beheading the latter ("Ant." xx. 5, § 1).
An "Egyptian" is said to have gathered together 30,000 adherents, whom he summoned to the Mount of Olives, opposite Jerusalem, promising that at his command the walls of Jerusalem would fall down, and that he and his followers would enter and possess themselves of the city. But Felix, the procurator (c. 55-60), met the throng with his soldiery. The prophet escaped, but those with him were killed or captured, and the multitude dispersed.
Another would-be-messiah, Josephus reports, promised the people "deliverance and freedom from their miseries" if they would follow him to the wilderness. Both leader and followers were killed by the troops of Festus, the procurator. Even when Jerusalem was already being destroyed by the Romans, a prophet, according to Josephus suborned by the defenders to keep the people from deserting, announced that God commanded them to come to the Temple, there to receive miraculous signs of their deliverance. Those who came met death in the flames.
Menahem ben Judah, the son of Judas of Galilee and grandson of Hezekiah, the leader of the Zealots, who had troubled Herod, was a warrior. When the war broke out he attacked Masada with his band, armed his followers with the weapons stored there, and proceeded to Jerusalem where he captured the fortress Antonia, overpowering the troops of Agrippa II. Emboldened by his success, he behaved as a king, and claimed the leadership of all the troops. Thereby he aroused the enmity of Eleazar, another Zealot leader, and met death as a result of a conspiracy against him. He is probably identical with the Menahem ben Hezekiah mentioned in the Talmud (tractate Sanhedrin 98b) and called "the comforter that should relieve".
Bar Kokhba, My favourite; With the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem the appearance of messiahs ceased for a time. Sixty years later a politico-Messianic movement of large proportions took place with Shimeon Bar Kokhba (also: Bar Kosiba) at its head. This leader of the revolt against Rome was hailed as Messiah-king by Rabbi Akiva, who referred to him, Numbers xxiv. 17: "There shall come forth a star out of Jacob, and a scepter shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite through the corners of Moab,", and Hag. ii. 21, 22; "I will shake the heavens and the earth and I will overthrow the thrones of kingdoms. . . ." (Talmud tracate Sanhedrin 97b). Although some doubted his messiahship, he seems to have carried the nation with him for his undertaking. He had coins made with his head on it and a name, “The morning Star” and “Messiah” which were distributed and used in place of roman currency. After stirring up a war (133-135) that taxed the power of Rome, he at last met his death on the walls of Bethar. His Messianic movement ended in defeat and misery for the survivors.
Jesus was warning his disciples in his time…it has nothing to do with us, although we can learn a few lessons from it…
And Jesus answered and said unto them, " Take heed that no man decieve you. For many shall come in My name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
I have heard pastors talk about this verse and explain it as the false Christs arising claiming to be the messiah. Now I know that this fact is discussed later in this same chapter and elsewhere in scripture, but I do not think that this explanation fits this particular passage. I am inclined to believe that Jesus is talking about teachers claiming Christ as messiah , then proceeding to deceive many with false teaching.
Am I getting this right?
Thank you for taking time to read this.
God bless!
I agree with you. Who are the players in the end time deception? The devil, the beasts and the false prophet. Now the false prophets are not going to claim to be Christ. They are going to claim that Jesus is the Christ. You cannot come in the name of Christ and claim to be Christ. Jesus did not come in the name of Jesus. They are coming in the name of Jesus claiming that he is the messiah but what they teach is far from the word. However there will also be those who will claim to be Christ. They are just used by the devil to protect the false prophets who really do the deception because not many will believe a man who comes from nowhere and claims to be Christ. So i lean toward the text meaning that many shall claim that Jesus is Christ but they are false. Lets be real. We know that there are many false prophets in the world now. How many of them claim to be Christ?
I agree with you. Who are the players in the end time deception? The devil, the beasts and the false prophet.
the devil is the false prophet himself, and has abilities that no man of flesh and blood has...and he heads the beast nation that will come into existence for him. Christ is the true Prophet. Satan is the false.
Now the false prophets are not going to claim to be Christ. They are going to claim that Jesus is the Christ.
ya, but not our Jesus, but theirs...the false one....that everyone will worship as God..not god(s) only, but God.
You cannot come in the name of Christ and claim to be Christ. Jesus did not come in the name of Jesus. They are coming in the name of Jesus claiming that he is the messiah but what they teach is far from the word.
it seems like it is the Word and their lies will help set up and fool the planet.
However there will also be those who will claim to be Christ. They are just used by the devil to protect the false prophets who really do the deception because not many will believe a man who comes from nowhere and claims to be Christ.
but they will believe a supernatural fallen angel, who is cast out of heaven and down to earth for a short season. Rev12....his abilities will cause the world to believe his lies and worship him as God returned...to Christians, that is Christ. he (and his angels) shall even look the part 2Cor11:13-15, Rev13:11
So i lean toward the text meaning that many shall claim that Jesus is Christ but they are false. Lets be real. We know that there are many false prophets in the world now. How many of them claim to be Christ?
IMO it means that many shall claim to be Christians, claim to come in His name, but God did not send them...they are tares and fakes. There are some very obvious ones on TV these days...gimmie, gimmie, gimmie..but it is the unobvious ones that are the trouble...hard t see them, subtle message...but enough to take away truth and possibly send you down prim rose lane...thinking everything was just fine....and then BAM! One reason I dislike pre trib rapture so much...
so there are false teachers, and some of those teachers have so many believers that if they were removed from their position to early, it might destroy some of their crop...the wheat might get hurt in the process...
that's why God Himself will do it after the tribulation hour of temptation.
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