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26th March 2009, 06:52 PM
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Reps: 6,688,658,930,375,081 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen  If they are an allegory, then YOU are an allegory.
Adam was the first man, created by God. Eve was created by God from Adam.
Christ died as a KINSMAN REDEEMER to ADAM!
I'm trying not to be disrespectful here but 
yes and he might want to explain how he got that sin nature too....
since it comes by bloodline -
and it's life-blood that has to be shed to atone for sin. (life for life).
We inherited Adam's sin that he had to commit in order for us
to recieve it.
Sin isn't allegorical anymore than Adam & Eve were.
(and don't we all think that God HAD to start life with
REAL people)?
And who was God talking with in the Garden and why would
something allegorical use fig leaves to cover up body parts?
And who was tending the garden & the animals?
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26th March 2009, 06:58 PM
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26th March 2009, 07:28 PM
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Reps: 178,751,386,065,373,056 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen If they are an allegory, then YOU are an allegory.
Adam was the first man, created by God. Eve was created by God from Adam. Adam MULTIPLIED via SEX between male and female Adam-kind.
Christ died as a KINSMAN REDEEMER to ADAM!
I'm trying not to be disrespectful here but
Unfortunately, all the available objective evidence suggests otherwise.
Species don't decend from only two individuals. Populations simply don't work that way.
Don't disagree with me, just tell me if Adam and or Eve where white, black, Asian, Polynesian, American Indian, or rainbow? |
26th March 2009, 07:34 PM
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Reps: 178,751,386,065,373,056 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Nadiine If someone looks silly it might be you - becuz you just claimed I
called Obama the antichrist.
I said the world is being prepped to recieve the antichrist - [who comes
out of the global world union, not the USA.]
I don't give Obama the credit to be the antichrist, he's not
competent to pull it off as far as I'm concerned.
the point I was making was the PEOPLE are so blind and
obsessed that they won't see the coming leader's real identity
as it would fit from scripture. Look at Obama, worshipping a man
who had ZERO experience, ZERO credentials or anything significant
to be worthy of such homage.
They won't recognize what the antichrist is doing (agenda)
Obama the Antichrist? hardly 
Well if the anti-Christ isn't in power yet, it seems a long bow to draw to claim that the end times are upon us, doesn't it? |
26th March 2009, 07:36 PM
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Reps: 40,143,535,222,134,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by LightHorseman Unfortunately, all the available objective evidence suggests otherwise.
Species don't decend from only two individuals. Populations simply don't work that way.
Don't disagree with me, just tell me if Adam and or Eve where white, black, Asian, Polynesian, American Indian, or rainbow?
Obviously, within Adam is the DNA for all colors of people and bone structure. And YES, SPECIES do descend from two individuals which is why the ark was loaded in pairs. |
26th March 2009, 07:55 PM
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Reps: 6,688,658,930,375,081 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by LightHorseman Well if the anti-Christ isn't in power yet, it seems a long bow to draw to claim that the end times are upon us, doesn't it?
no it doesn't and I don't see how you come to this conclusion?
Those who believe the rapture doctrine/theory would claim that
a rapture occurs 7 years prior to a tribulation period (starting
in Rev. 4-5 when John is taken up into the heavens).
If we're gone 7 yrs prior to the start of the trib (let's say the trib starts in 8 years), it gives the antichrist several years before he comes forward...
If there were no rapture, it could be several years as well.
With the speed of all the events happening, it wouldn't take much
to push the world into global union, and from what I see, if it
happens w/ Obama in leadership, he'd make a hasty decision and
sign us over the next morning - just like he signed in a billion dollar
spending bill without even reading the thing.
Anything can happen to push the events quickly |
26th March 2009, 08:10 PM
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Reps: 178,751,386,065,373,056 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen Obviously, within Adam is the DNA for all colors of people and bone structure.
The human genome project disagrees with you And YES, SPECIES do descend from two individuals which is why the ark was loaded in pairs.
Um... the story of The Ark is as alegorical as Adam and Eve, sorry  |
26th March 2009, 08:12 PM
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Reps: 178,751,386,065,373,056 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Nadiine no it doesn't and I don't see how you come to this conclusion?
Those who believe the rapture doctrine/theory would claim that
a rapture occurs 7 years prior to a tribulation period (starting
in Rev. 4-5 when John is taken up into the heavens).
If we're gone 7 yrs prior to the start of the trib (let's say the trib starts in 8 years), it gives the antichrist several years before he comes forward...
If there were no rapture, it could be several years as well.
With the speed of all the events happening, it wouldn't take much
to push the world into global union, and from what I see, if it
happens w/ Obama in leadership, he'd make a hasty decision and
sign us over the next morning - just like he signed in a billion dollar
spending bill without even reading the thing.
Anything can happen to push the events quickly
So... the rapture happens and THEN the anti-Christ comes to power?
Well, when/if the Rapture happens, I think that would be a pretty good example of an unambiguous sign from God. So maybe we should hold off on all the apocalyptic hysteria until the Rapture happens? |
26th March 2009, 08:17 PM
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Reps: 262,607,594,537,243,968 (power: 262,607,594,537,263) | | Originally Posted by HisdaughterJen FOCUS. None of those men threw the Constitution out the window and intends to destroy this nation like the one we have now.
Oh, the President who threw the Constitution out the window left office on January 20. The man we have now is a good Christian from Chicago, who was born in Hawaii.
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26th March 2009, 08:19 PM
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Reps: 40,143,535,222,134,136 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by LightHorseman Unfortunately, all the available objective evidence suggests otherwise.
Species don't decend from only two individuals. Populations simply don't work that way.
Don't disagree with me, just tell me if Adam and or Eve where white, black, Asian, Polynesian, American Indian, or rainbow?
Obviously, they had the DNA of all skin types and bone structures within them.
The SPECIES we are discussing is HUMAN. Asian, polynesian, Indian, black, white all refer to skin color and bone structure but they are ALL of the HUMAN species.
Did you ever stop to consider that there are only a handful of "races"...black, white, Indian, Asian...and these are basically tribal, in nature? Asian could even be considered a type of Indian...which leaves only three "races" of one SPECIES. What if the three sons of Noah were of these three races. That would explain the resemblance of peoples which forms races.
All tribes are traced back to Noah and his sons who repopulated the earth after the flood. Apparently, white went North, Indian went East/South and black went South/West.
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