Most Trinitarians believe that Christ preexisted in a conscious state prior to his birth on earth? What happened to his memories and experiences from that time?
If Christ is 100% God and 100% man, what things did His deity do and what things His humanity? How do you know?
Most Trinitarians believe that Christ preexisted in a conscious state prior to his birth on earth? What happened to his memories and experiences from that time?
If Christ is 100% God and 100% man, what things did His deity do and what things His humanity? How do you know?
Can God change His character?
i got some questions in the same vein I could add to yours, like.
"Since God is a spirit, according to the bible, and Jesus is a man , according to the bible, then that would mean that Jesus is the omnipresent spirit , a human body , soul and human spirit at the same time. So how can someone be ominipresent spirit and a physical body and soul at the same time?"
or
"Since according to trinity Jesus is God god the father is god, god the holy spirit is God, and they are not each other, how come that doesn't add up to 3 gods? why do you have to call each individual the nonbiblical term person of God before you can add them uP?
and there are lots more , but this is all an exercise in futility. Cause the universal solvent to these problems of trinity is "I don't paint God in a box." or "God is beyond our understanding" or "It makes sense to me." etc. etc. etc. etc.
__________________ God is a spirit (jn 4:24)........... God is not a man...(Nu 23:19) A spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me (Jesus) have (Lu 24:39).....the man Christ Jesus 1 ti 2:5
i got some questions in the same vein I could add to yours, like.
"Since God is a spirit, according to the bible, and Jesus is a man , according to the bible, then that would mean that Jesus is the omnipresent spirit , a human body , soul and human spirit at the same time. So how can someone be ominipresent spirit and a physical body and soul at the same time?"
or
"Since according to trinity Jesus is God god the father is god, god the holy spirit is God, and they are not each other, how come that doesn't add up to 3 gods? why do you have to call each individual the nonbiblical term person of God before you can add them uP?
and there are lots more , but this is all an exercise in futility. Cause the universal solvent to these problems of trinity is "I don't paint God in a box." or "God is beyond our understanding" or "It makes sense to me." etc. etc. etc. etc.
No big surprise that there are no answers for our questions.
No big surprise that there are no answers for our questions.
they've been being asked for hundreds of years. Not likely any answer is forth coming any time soon.
__________________ God is a spirit (jn 4:24)........... God is not a man...(Nu 23:19) A spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me (Jesus) have (Lu 24:39).....the man Christ Jesus 1 ti 2:5
That's becasue they can't answer them. TBH I am getting quite vexed with being deleted in the GT section when people are raising discussions on trinity and I offer an alternate viewpoint. If they want to just re-affirm their own beliefs why ask the question at all?
That's becasue they can't answer them. TBH I am getting quite vexed with being deleted in the GT section when people are raising discussions on trinity and I offer an alternate viewpoint. If they want to just re-affirm their own beliefs why ask the question at all?
Just out of curiosity, do you have some comment that sticks out to you as the most nonsensical, illogical thing that you have heard in defense of trinity? For me it would have to be the comments that
"verbs have no subjects, verbs have causes and the cause of a verb could be in another sentence. Sentences have subjects not verbs, Is is an action verb."
I might have heard something more ludicrous in defence of trinity but that sticks out in my mind as the most innnane defence of trintiy I have ever heard. Or maybe it's just that I've heard 3 are one so many times I'm immune to the innanity of it.
__________________ God is a spirit (jn 4:24)........... God is not a man...(Nu 23:19) A spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me (Jesus) have (Lu 24:39).....the man Christ Jesus 1 ti 2:5
I'd have to say the farce that attempts to assign pluracy to the adjective 'one' rather than the noun 'God'. Or coupled to that, saying that God is sometimes plural and other time single from the same root word.
Any number of attempts to argue the trinitarian viewpoint from the OT. I always ask them to show me where in the OT we get a trinity as that OT is what Jesus and the disciples taught out of. Further, that if it is such an important doctrine, where is the explicit statement of that anywhere. Contrast this with the numerous times where God says that He is one and beside Him there are no others in the OT and the support Jesus has for that in Mark.
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